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    Steph
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    Hello… I’m an expat living in Saudi Arabia and went to adopt a cat from a local shelter. The woman who owns the shelter is stretched beyond her limit – housing more than 104 cats in her own house – and asked me to foster 4 3 week old kittens for her. I said yes, but was not given that much information. I’m feeding them on powdered kitten forumla through a syringe with a cut off piece of IV because it’s softer on kitty’s gums, and am using the method of ‘feed when crying’. (I should mention, their Mother isn’t around and they were left on a street in a box, so going back to their Mum is impossible as it’s quite normal here for kittens to be chucked out onto the street once the Mother cat has finished her pregnancy…)
    They are peeing on their own, and leaving tiny drops of poo that, up until today, were solid in colour. Now they are slightly looser with a toothpaste kind of consistency and a yellowish brown…is this normal, or do I need to dilute the formula?
    Also, the vet told me 1 tsp of powder to 2 parts milk but I have no idea what that means!! So I have been given them one 1sp of powder and 160mls of water…is this correct? I wish she’d had the time to give me much more detail and I have been reading around, but different sites say different things. She told me not to worry if they died because had they not been picked up they wouldn’t have lived anyway….but I don’t want 4 baby kittens dying on my watch! 😥
    I’m keeping them in a room with warm temperature and letting them out to supervised play and cuddles as often as I can. At the moment they seem to want food once every hour and a half…I feed them until they’re full, as they don’t ask for food in the night – they don’t cry, they just sleep right through. I think they have put some weight on, but as I don’t know what their original weight is it’s hard to tell – I’ve only had them two days!
    ALSO, they seem to like suckling on each other. Not on genitals, on their sides. Is this normal, are they grooming? Or do I need to separate them? 🙁
    If anyone could offer some advice I’d be extremely grateful.

    #831560
    jcat
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    Hi, Steph, welcome to TDK. We’ll give you all the help we can. First of all, if you click on the pink tag ‘orphans’, you will pull up many threads on dealing with abandoned babies. Next, this set of videos is fantastic for giving you all the basics:

    And these links may also help:
    http://feral-kitten-rescue.blogspot.com/2008/10/feral-kitten-how-to-story.html
    http://www.messybeast.com/handrear.htm
    http://www.kittenrescue.org/pages.php?pageid=15
    http://www.fanciers.com/cat-faqs/orphans.shtml
    http://www.feralcat.com/raising.html
    26 August, 2014 at 7:31 am

    Links for kitten-raising sites, eg Messybeast

    #831561
    jcat
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    Now, congratulations on their poo — toothpaste consistency and yellowish brown is perfect poo for bottle-fed babies.
    If the vet said one teaspoon powder to two parts water, she meant one teaspoon powder, two teaspoons water. If you were making up a litre, it would be one litre powder to two litres water. Or one cup powder to two cups water. The ratio, in other words, is 1:2; twice as much water as powder, however much powder you use.
    Of course you don’t want baby kittens dying on your watch. However, the very sad fact is, and this is true for the US and Europe and Australia and everywhere, abandoned babies often do not do well. Up to 40% of them die without their mums. On the bright side, this also means that 60% of them live and if yours are three weeks old, then they stand a fighting chance. The trouble is, their mum probably had bad nutrition during her pregnancy, she probably was unvaccinated so any viruses she had, she will have passed on to her kittens, she may have been injured or gone through trauma during her pregnancy and she may have abandoned her babies because she knew there was something wrong with them. And when kittens are this tiny, there is not a great deal vets can give in the way of treatment — for example, antibiotics can do as much harm as good to a tiny kitten’s digestive system. So you must prepare yourself for the small chance that they will not make it to be healthy sturdy kittens. The vet wanted you to know that if this happens, it is IN NO WAY your fault — you are giving them a fighting chance and without you they would not even have that!
    It’s a good idea to weigh them if you can, just to keep tabs on their progress — basically, you want to know that they are steadily gaining weight week by week, not standing still or worse, losing weight. It will give you a good idea of their progress and how they’re holding up.
    They are suckling on each other because they don’t have their mum to suckle on any more. It’s good that it’s not on their genitals but it’s still not ideal — if they keep doing it, it can cause bruising and infection. You may need to put rolled up towels between them in the nest or, if that doesn’t work, separate them. But put some stuffed animals in their nest too and see if they can suck and knead on those. An unwashed woollen sweater of yours (preferably mohair if you have it) so it smells of you will hopefully also get them kneading and suckling on that rather than on each other.
    ANything else, just ask, we are not vets but there are some very experienced foster kitty mums on here and they are wonderful at helping.

    #831565
    Steph
    Participant

    Thank you for the video and the links Jcat! The video especially was really helpful :3

    #831566
    Steph
    Participant

    Oh I’m so relieved! One did have a very small mess this morning and I was quite worried it would be a big problem, but if that’s the right consistency then I can relax a tad.
    We don’t know what happened to the Mum, but the vet said it was likely that the pregnant Mum was left unsterilized and had this litter…and the owners put the kittens on the street, as they were found in a cardboard box by a bin. 🙁
    I’m going to weigh them today and being keeping a record so I can see…I really am going to do my very best to make sure I do everything as correctly as I can, though I know you’re right and I should also prepare myself for the fact they might not make it.
    Thank you so much for the wonderful advice! I’m going to have a look around for a sweater and some soft toys for them to play with and (hopefully) suckle on!

    #831572
    Kittyzee
    Participant

    Steph, thank you for taking on this little family of kittens! It will be the most rewarding job ever! I have used fleece blankets that have little nubs on them and kittens love sucking and kneading on those instead of each other. JCat gave such good advice and links above! Please stop back in with updates!!

    #831580
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi Steph,

    JCat is one of best foster mum’s.

    If you have access to Goats’ milk, you can feed them instead of KMR. It’s gentle on their tummies and gives them probiotics. It’s a 1:1 solution. I’ve heard that a wind up clock in their nest is soothing. The ticking sound mimics Moms’ heartbeat. Remember, do not turn on the alarm.

    Thank you for taking on the challenge of raising your 3 kits. Keep in touch and let us know how you’re doing.

    PG

    #831581
    Steph
    Participant

    Its challenging work but so rewarding when you hold them close and they purr 🙂 I don’t have any fleece blankets but I have found a soft toy with little nubs on so I’m hoping they’ll suckle on that!
    I have also weighed them, and they are 200gs each. I’m not sure if this is on track or not (The vet and I assume they are somewhere in their 3rd week as they are walking/wobbling, have their eyes and ears open and are defecating on their own). I’ll weigh them again tomorrow!

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