You know, I’m not sure if they removed her ovaries our not, I’ll have to call and ask. And this was actually the 2nd kitten that had problems, there were 6 altogether but a few days after they were born I had noticed that this ones little sister want gaining weight (I was weighing them daily) and I also could tell she was significately smaller than the others. I started really watching her eat. And even though I know she was nursing, she either want getting enough or want getting any. So after talking to the vet, I started trying to bottle feed and she wouldn’t suck on the nipple. It tired and tried to get her to but it want working, and I made sure that in between me trying different techniques that she got alone time with mom, I even held her on the nipple myself many times, and had to even fed her with a tiny medicine dropper. Anyway, after about 1 1/2 days of this she was still losing weight, in fact the last day we had her I literally watched her drop over 10 grams in half a day. So I immediately took her in. the vet told us we could try tube feeding her but I was scared I might do something wrong, sticking a tube down a newborn kittens throat to it’s stomach was just too much for me. I couldn’t live with myself if I’d accidentally got a lung or something, and if something went wrong I would’ve blamed myself. So one of the vet technicians that had assisted in their delivery offered to take her on and care for her. She stayed in the clinic for 3 days and then the tech took her home and shes doing great now. However, it was just 2 days later that her brother, the one I started this thread about, started having problems. It’s literally been one thing after the other with these guys. In fact, it all started like that when momma kitty went into labor. First of all, she wouldn’t let me leave her side the last days of her pregnancy and during labor. As I mentioned before, shes pretty young herself. So when she had the 1st one she actually got scared and started swinging it around while it was still attached (if u know what I mean) she ended up treating the cord by doing this and she didn’t go to clean him or even break the sac, so I had to do it. Luckily my sister had come over to assist me cause I’ve never been thru any of this and I was pretty nervous myself. So we got him cleaned up and cut the cord and then mom started doing a little cleaning herself. By the time they were settled she started contracting again and along comes baby kitty #2. Momma didn’t do anything with this one either and when I broke the sac and cleared his mouth, he wasn’t breathing. I had to rub him a bit and get him breathing and then mommy started learning and wanted to take over. By the time they were settled, the 3rd started coming but only the bag was coming out. She pushed for over 2 hours and she was bleeding a lot. I had been talking with the very of and on during all this and they said it was time to bring her in. the vet and I were positive the 3rd kitty was dead. By this time it had been 3hrs of pushing on that one kitten and no progress. Since it was a little after 5am and her labor had slowed, they told me that I could leave her there and they wouldn’t charge room and board if I wanted to wait for a day clinic to open (since a c-section runs about $1500 at their clinic, and between $400-$600 at the other clinic) so I went ahead and did that and when I got home I just couldn’t rest, something was telling me to go ahead and just have it done, I couldn’t stand the idea of her sitting there like that any longer. So I called up the very and have them the go ahead. When they called me a couple hours later to let me know how it went we were all shocked. The kitty that was stick was still born, but they managed to revive her (shes the only one that los like her mom) and had we waited til the other clinic opened, she wouldn’t have made it! Plus, it turned out that mommy kitty, my Sophie, had a cut on the inside of her uterus and was bleeding inside, so there was a good chance she wouldn’t have made it either. There was definitely some higher power telling me to hurry up and get it done that night/morning. So there’s my story, and you guys know what’s happened since. It’s been a very long 12 days with lots of heartache but things seem to be looking up. The kittens are starting to open their eyes, a couple of them fully, and the remaining for plus mommy are doing great! 2 of them, the 2 that were born at home, were born on my son’s 11th birthday. He told me that his birthday wish. I have 3 kids, I know I mentioned my 4 year old daughter who was with me at the vet the other day, that’s Kaitlyn (aka sweet pea), then there’s my 8yr old, Jacob, and my now 11yr old, Jason. Thanks again to all of you, you’re the best!