21 November, 2009 at 8:12 pm #33607
When will my kittens (5 wks old) drink from a bowl?
They have taken to the feeding bottle and refuse to lap up milk (formula) from a bowl. How long before they do so?
As I have written before, I live in a place where no kitten formula is available. So I feed them human baby formula. They love it, and are putting on weight. I have seen YouTube videos kittens have begun to drink from bowls as early as 4 weeks of age.
I guess I’ve got to give my kittens some time and enjoy the bottle feeding experience till they learn to drink on their own.21 November, 2009 at 8:33 pm #510267
The last set of babies I bottle fed didn’t go off the bottle until they were 8 weeks old. And I have to say they did that with a lot of frustration. They wanted the bottle, not a bowl. Eventually I convinced them that real food was better than a bottle.
Where do you live?21 November, 2009 at 8:43 pm #510268
India21 November, 2009 at 8:55 pm #510269
That explains no KMR! Keeping them on a bottle a little long will help them to continue to thrive, before too long they should be able to drink on their own. They probably also like being close to you while you are feeding them. It gives them a sense of security.21 November, 2009 at 9:03 pm #510270
I agree…and I love to bottle feed them.
Out here kittens are fed cow’s milk, and they do survive…
If you tell someone in India that cow’s milk is bad, they will jeer at you and make you feel like a fool by narrating stories of how they raised kittens only on cow’s milk. Older kittens are fed with fish and rice, or whatever the family eats…even bread.
I have read a lot about how lactose in cow’s milk causes diarrhea. Therefore I have avoided cow’s milk. Human newborn baby formula is the only option I have.
There are pet stores out here, but they do not have KMR or the like. In fact, these pet stores advise you to feed the kittens with human baby formula. There is not much of a market for KMR or any kind of processed pet food (except for dog food).
Hey Soxsmom, thanks for writing. I’ll let the kittens enjoy the bottle for a little while longer.21 November, 2009 at 9:20 pm #510271
Many feral cats have lived long lives on what a family eats. My dogs eat rice as well–it is combined with chicken or lamb. It is easy for my old girl to digest, and it doesn’t bother my puppy’s sensitive stomach. Now my cats would never eat it unless nothing else was offered. Cats can be so finacky! Enjoy your kittens!21 November, 2009 at 9:33 pm #510272
Thanks Soxsmom21 November, 2009 at 11:52 pm #510273
Hey wtw – the only way I ever get my kittens to stop bugging me for a bottle is to just stop giving it to them. I always have a usual time that I give them their first feed in the morning, and when I start weaning them, I leave that an hour or so later than usual – they’ll be screaming and crying for their bottle, (they wont die from waiting a while longer) and they’ll just be happy to get the milk any way they can, aka in a bowl I would then alternate the rest of their feeds throughout the day between bottle and bowl until they just eat from the bowl. I always still give them a bottle before bedtime, just to cozy them up for sweet dreams, but usually after a few days they dont want it any more.22 November, 2009 at 6:28 am #510274
Hey Skyron, I think you have a point. I guess, just like human babies, they will refuse to be weaned from the bottle. So I will try to introduce the bowl whenever I can. And if they still refuse it, they can always be comforted by drinking from a bottle.
Thanks Skyron. Hope Stumpie is doing well.22 November, 2009 at 8:52 am #510275
hey WTW…have the little devils started on solids yet? try baby food…ones that have turkey or chicken in them. warm it up a little so that it smells yummy. First get them to lick it off ur fingers and slowly move ur fingers closer n closer to the shallow dish n soon they should be lapping on their own. Scruffy was bottle fed too and she was mighty unhappy about being weaned but at about 8 weeks, she was more than happy to chow on her own from a bowl. Try serving milk in a shallow dish in the beginning. That way, even if ur babies get a little clumsy and dunk their head in too much (n they most likely will the first few times they lap on their own), they won’t get all choked and sneezy from too much milk that gets into their nose. And I vote for Skyron’s tough love method of denying them the bottle for a while.
Can we see their cute faces? we only got to see their butts the other day..
which part of India r u in btw?22 November, 2009 at 9:28 am #510276
Here are some pics that I shared on TDK earlier:
I guess the kittens were 2 and a half weeks old then. Some of the pics are blurry because they move too much and my camera does not catch moving pictures well unless I use the flash. Will try to get some recent pics.
I have already bought some shallow dishes that won’t topple over. I tried feeding them baby food with cereals in it. They rejected it right away. Maybe I should try baby food with chicken in it.
I live on the periphery of Mumbai City. You must be aware that it is called the financial capital of India. This is where Bollywood, the Hindi film industry is. It is the Hollywood of Indian movies, and therefore it is so named. It is also the city where the 11/26 terrorist attacks took place at the hotels Taj and Oberoi last November.
Hey Khom, thanks for keeping in touch.22 November, 2009 at 9:49 am #510277
I was in Mumbai 3 yrs back. It’s packed! And alive. You’ve been there long?
if they took to cereals, i’d be as surprised as a …oh i dono. U’d hv better luck with the kind of baby food that comes in tiny bottles/jars, mashed and ready-to-eat. They’ve got tons of flavors and i’m sure u can get them there. it’ll hv to be gruel-like at this point, pasty even. I used to mix it in the beginning with a little bit of thickened formula. n warm, to release all that aroma…these picky bunch of trouble, i tell u.23 November, 2009 at 6:22 am #510278
I have been in Mumbai all my life. Yes, Mumbai is very packed indeed. This is because the villages are very much underdeveloped, and therefore people move to the cities in search of livelihood. Some places never close down and are very crowded even throughout the night and the next morning. That’s why I moved to the outskirts which is comparatively less polluted and less crowded. Commuting by train is just miserable; therefore I have set myself up in such a way that I do not have to use the trains.
I tried to introduce the bowl (actually a shallow dish) when the kittens were very hungry, but they flatly refused it. In fact, they ran away from it, jumped into their basket and stopped crying for milk They repeat this behavior whenever I try to put them near the dish. So I had to give them the bottle.
Talking about cereals, there are many families in India that are pure vegetarians. Their cats eat chapatis. You may be aware that a chapati (or roti) is a kind of flat unleavened bread made of wheat dough. It’s a staple food. I guess the poor hungry cats have no other option.
Also, canned or bottled baby foods are rarely found in India. There isn’t much of a market for those. I tried giving them grueled fish, but they refused it too. I guess I’ll have to keep trying till they are ready for it.8 December, 2009 at 7:45 am #510279
WTW, LOL…i know chapatis. I have them for dinner at least 4 times a week (I’m of indian descent too). My dogs love ‘em . My cats run at the sight of them.
hw do the people in India wean their babies? I suppose they make their own baby food puree? Industrious lot. Anyway..i just checked out some pictures of Mint and Pepper. They’re thriving. Are u gonna keep them?8 December, 2009 at 7:03 pm #510280
Good to know of your Indian connection. My kittens run from chapatis too.
In India, people love cats but they are very much ignorant about them. They do not know that cow’s milk is bad. That is why, most people feed their cats with cow’s milk when they are weaned. No one specially prepares any kind of food for cats. Most cats feed on leftovers from meals. So making puree or buying canned food is the last thing one would do. In fact, some of my neighbors find it strange that I prepare food for my kittens.
Out here cats are not vaccinated or spayed/ neutered. They are never taken to vets. They thrive on their own. It is survival of the fittest. However, things are changing.
Yes, I’m gonna keep Pepper and Mint. They are family now.
Both have learned to eat fish, chicken and egg yolk, and have just begun to eat liver. Mint is putting on some weight, but Pepper continues to be tiny. They drink water from a bowl, but will refuse to drink milk (baby formula) unless fed in a bottle. They love the attention and will continue to suck on the nipple till they fall asleep.
Here’s a video of them playing:
You may also find some pics on the site.8 December, 2009 at 7:28 pm #5102818 December, 2009 at 7:40 pm #510282
OH! Those videos are so precious ! Active little buggers !8 December, 2009 at 10:10 pm #510283
those look like such sweet kitties! Reminds me of when my calico was a kitten. She is still playful and so is her non litter mate sister.9 December, 2009 at 3:35 am #510284
WTW!! those naughty little rascals are so absolutely lovely. how much they hv grown since the day u found them! And Pepper for one so little puts up quite a fight (the part she pushes Mint off the couch). hahaha. too cute.
I’m glad u’re keeping the two. I think u’re a champ..u have done a great job with them n I know from experience that it’s no easy feat.
As for the suckling bit…Scruffy would want to suckle well into her 3rd month so i guess Pepper and Mint are just being babies wanting pampering. It’s very adorable.
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