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  • #51078

    Chaos
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    Hello all, last july my friend came across a starving black 8 week old kitten, and I took her under my wing, and she was named Luna. Things were going fine, she weighed less than a pound when I got her, and after being wormed she jumped to a pound and a half. She had conjunctivitis, and an upper respiratory infection. She got over both quickly. In august I moved from San Diego, CA to Oregon, and she was pretty good.

    Then miss Luna started breathing weird. It’s like there is a frog in her throat, or like she is snoring but awake. She sounds like this 24/7 and only stops when she is relaxed and sleeping in certain position. Vet said it could be leukemia or aids, we happened to have gotten her from a feral colony. But her tests were negative. She behaves like our 3 other cats, she plays though not as aggressively. She eats, sleeps, drinks, like any other cat. But she breathes like she is snoring. She also is only about 4 pounds, and she is almost 10 months old. She prefers dry food to her wet food. Vet is worried about putting her under to find the problem because when she last had some work done (aids, felv, test) she almost suffocated. Vet doesn’t think it’s asthma because of her tiny size. Steroids didn’t help much either. I’m thinking either her lungs are underdeveloped or allergies. Does anyone have some insight??

    #729506

    ladysky61
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    Did you get a chest x-ray? Also there’s a parasite called “lungworm”

    #729507

    Chaos
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    ooh that sounds painful. Haven’t gotten her an x-ray yet. i don’t know exactly how they take xrays for animals but my vet doesnt want her sedated at all. Are there any treatments for lungworm?

    #729508

    SoxsMom
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    Why was there sedation for a Feline Leukemia test? Why did Luna almost suffocate when given lab tests? What suggestions have you been given by the vet?

    #729509

    ladysky61
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    It’s not painful. I’ve had it done myself! The attendant holds the cat down so they don’t need to be sedated (unless the cat is especially unruly)

    #729510

    Mo
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    Does she snort when she eats?

    Bandit had the same problem it sounds like, but he died while being nuetered. The clinic did an autopsy for free (they wanted to find the problem) and they found nothing at all that looked strange. They checked everything and then some, and everything showed he was an extremely healthy cat.

    To their credit, they also did everything possible to try save him. They also very rarely lose any animal during surgery. Then they, knowing how he sounded like/acted like, wanted to try figure out the cause of his condition. They hadn’t seen the problem before, and still have no idea what was wrong.

    #729511

    Chaos
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    She does snort while eating, but only while eating wet food. and she almost suffocated cause they had to take blood from her juggular. The vet recommends no sedation at all. She told me of a similar story where the cat was sedated and they tried to see what was going on with his breathing, and he died. That was done by a specialist, and she will not try anything like that for her. I have to save up the money for an x-ray. And she wasn’t sedated for the aids test, Luna is just so skinny they couldnt get a vein from anywhere else but her juggular

    #729512

    Mo
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    The only food Bandit could eat without snorting was prey model raw (large chunks of meat/bone/organ). His body reacted horribly to dry food, and he had a hard time eating pate style canned, but was okay-ish with canned that was chunks in gravy.

    Does she ever cough like the cat in the video on http://feline-nutrition.org/health/another-furball-it-might-be-feline-asthma if she does it may be asthma. I have one asthma kitty, Mikey, but his asthma is controlled soley through diet (he eats prey model raw). He also has bad allergies, but again he has no signs of that because of what he is fed.

    Is there any sign of a heart murmur? I’d think that the vet would have noticed, but ask again for them to check. Also check the blood pressure. Another thing is that they should throughly listen to her lungs, see if they sound “normal” or if there is anything that sounds off. I would guess they would have done all that – but you never know.

    http://www.cavalierhealth.org/brachycephalic.htm may help (aimed towards dogs, but they are carnivores just like cats).

    #729513

    Chaos
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    Luna usually doesnt go for anything too fresh, she barely likes her wetfood. I think she is just sick of it, cause thats all i fed her when she was little to fatten her up. I have to take her in again, ill see if they can do an ultrasound to look at anything. Im hoping its just allergies, which would make sense why it started up where i live now. San Diego didnt have the kind of mold and mildew that oregon has. Im going to get her tested for heartworms, cause ive heard that can be a cause too.

    #729514

    Skyron
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    Tests for FIV & FeLV are only considered definitive after age 6 months – before then its possible that there are not enough anti-bodies present for tests to pick up. As far as I’m concerned, your vet just wasted a chunk of your money. Doesnt sound like they are trying very hard anyway – cats dont necessarily have to be sedated for xrays, especially not a little 8 week old critter . . .

    #729515

    ladysky61
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    Skyron- it says that she is now 10 months.

    #729516

    ladysky61
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    Yeah hopefully it’s just allegeries! You can get filters that clean out the air.

    #729517

    Skyron
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    Crud. Missed that – sorry!

    #729518

    ladysky61
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    It’s ok. Good point though about the FIV/FELV tests. I usually will try to test the Mama cat if I have kittens that young. I read some statistic that 95% of kittens under 6 months who test positive for FELV or FIV will “flip” to negative with proper care.

    #729519

    Skyron
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    Its true LS. I wish I knew my kitty was FeLV positive sooner – I’m sure he would have kicked its ass if I took better care of him 🙁

    #729520

    Chaos
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    Yeah, she was 7 months when tested (: She has huge issues with being handled, i’m thinking i’ll try a benadryl shot for her and see what happens. Thanks for the insight!

    #729521

    ashleyriott
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    Is she breathing with her abdomen? Did the vet listen to her chest or anything while she was breathing? As in, did they rule out fluid in her lungs? An x-ray might be a really good idea – if it’s lymphoma (I know that’s a scary word – don’t let it freak you out!) it could be pushing up against her trachea. Things like that sometimes respond really well to steroids and water retention medications, if caught in time.

    Also she shouldn’t need to be put asleep for x-rays – they can get one just by having her basically sitting on the machine. I had a leukemia positive kitty who was in respiratory distress – the vet opted to just do the one view X-ray out of concern that making her lie on her back would cause suffocation. It was enough for us to see what was going on with just the one easy angle though.

    #729522

    Chaos
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    It looks like she breathes from her stomach, like her lower sides will move. The vet checked her lungs and said it sounds like her bronchioles were swollen, but steroids didnt help. I guess our next move will be xrays. Luna also refuses to go on her back. She will tear up whatever is holding her that way. I hope its not lymphoma, she ssxxxxxd -00000000000007hj15zzf7G21111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111O999966666666666666;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;O[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[11111111RBFNPQA

    #729523

    ladysky61
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    Kitten get on the keyboard? haha

    Yeah. It sounds like pneumonia or bronchitis, but I’m not a vet. It might be different for cats, but when I had it, I didn’t want to lay on my back because it was difficult to breath. I had to sleep propped up on pillows. Usually that’s treated with antibiotics not steroids.

    #729524

    GD
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    Don’t know if this is a possibility, but I thought I’d mention it. When we took GG’s Glen to the emergency vet, she note upon examining him that his chest bone is unusually protruding (no vet had ever noticed this before). She asked if he ever has trouble swallowing and breathing. She mentioned there is a condition not many vets know of where a tumor sits behind the chest bone obstructing breathing, and also causing a protruding chest bone.

    I had noticed the chest bone protruding more than usual, but had attributed it to him being a skinny cat. If he ever starts having breathing problems, this is definitely something we’ll have him tested for.

    Anyway, just thought maybe this could be a possible diagnosis for your kitten.

    #729525

    Chaos
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    She was on antibiotics twice, it sounded like she got a little better, but then it continued

    Haha i didn’t even notice that she had gotten on the keyboard. Sneaky thing

    The tumor could be a possibility, but its hard to tell if her chest is protruding because she is a very very tiny cat. She is 10 months old and only about 3-4 pounds. That’ll be something else i’ll bring up to the vet.

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