10 July, 2008 at 3:38 pm #18305
I need some help here. Yesterday I ordered Revolution for The Bobster from PetDrugs in Canada, like I usually do. I got a confirmation email back that I had ordered Revolution and they were shipping it out to me. A couple of hours later, I receive another email, thanking me for my order and letting me know that they’re shipping out the Stronghold Blue “(equivalent to Revolution)” to me shortly.
I’ve never heard of Stronghold Blue and checked that I had indeed ordered and paid for Revolution. I sent them an email back telling them I ordered Revolution and that that’s what I wanted orI wanted to change my order. I received an email back now telling me they couldn’t cancel since it’s already shipped. They also told me Revolution doesn’t come in a 3 pack like I had ordered (though I had gotten it before!), only Stronghold Blue does. I looked up Stronghold Blue and it looks exactly like Revolution, just has the different name on it. They said I could ship it back to them after it arrives if I don’t want it.
It seems fishy to me, though, because when I ordered it, I ordered it under the Revolution name and there was even a picture of a three pack of Revolution there. Plus I know Revolution comes in a 3 pack, not just a 6 pack.
What do you all make of this? Am I just being nuts? There are some really cruddy products out there and I want the best for my baby. Has anyone here ever tried this Stronghold stuff?10 July, 2008 at 3:51 pm #246722
PetCareChoice sells the Revolution 3 pack for $32. I haven’t heard of Stronghold Blue. I know they sometimes call it Revolution Blue. I don’t think you are nuts. Perhaps this is a generic version.10 July, 2008 at 3:55 pm #246723
That’s what I figured, but they’re charging me the same price as I would have paid for Revolution!10 July, 2008 at 4:17 pm #246724
Pfizer makes Stronghold. Who makes Revolution?10 July, 2008 at 4:26 pm #246725
According to the Pfizer website they make Revolution but they do not have a listing for Stronghold.10 July, 2008 at 4:28 pm #246726
According to what I can find online, Pfizer makes both.
Here’s another thing: Boss recently gave his little yorkie “Revolution” and she got very, very sick – vomiting, bloody diarreah etc – and a $600 vet bill. Both the vet and Boss and Wife seem to think the Revolution treatment caused this. The vet even encouraged them to contact the makers of Revolution and have them cover the vet bill – the vet is helping them out with it, too!
I haven’t seen Boss today yet, but I’m going to ask him if this “Revolution” he gave his dog was indeed Revolution, because the packaging looks identical, but the name is different.
Anyway, I just find it strange that youcan order something online and then they charge your credit card and senf you something different!10 July, 2008 at 4:31 pm #246727
According to Pfizer Animal Health they do not have a listing for Stronghold for cats.10 July, 2008 at 4:34 pm #246728
The side effects that they list is digestive problems for dogs and temporary hair lose at site of application for cats.10 July, 2008 at 4:35 pm #246729
I just went and looked at it myself, Soxsmom. It seems strange to me. And when I look at revolution, it doesn’t say anything about it also going under the name Stronghold.10 July, 2008 at 4:37 pm #246730
Got the email response finally. Sent one this morning and they said:
The product information provided in this site is intended only for residents of the United States. The products discussed herein may have different product labeling in different countries.
Perhaps that is why you found the product named Stronghold and I didn’t.10 July, 2008 at 4:40 pm #246731
That’s freakin’ scary GD! I don’t think I’d use it and they shouldn’t substitute. It might be the Canadian equivalent but still,that sounds fishy.10 July, 2008 at 4:43 pm #246732
I know this is a completely different product but as far as labeling goes…I know that back east Best Foods mayonnaise is called Hellman’s even though it’s the same exact product. Could this be the same thing for the Revolution?10 July, 2008 at 4:48 pm #246733
deadfleaz.com also sells Revolution and they have it on sale for 25.50 for the 3 pack. Pretty good price.10 July, 2008 at 4:55 pm #246734
Revolution and Stronghold have a same manufacturer and the same effecting medicine (selamectin). Is the concentration same?10 July, 2008 at 4:59 pm #246735
I don’t know Great Dane… If I were you, I think I’d send it back.
My Gavin lost a big clump of hair on his neck from Advantage and every year the hair comes off that spot. I tried Revolution once cause the vet suggested, that it may not bother him, like the Advantage did. Well, not long after all the hair fell out at the same spot.. AGAIN!!! UGH! So, I don’t put anything on him now. At least once a year and sometimes twice, the hair falls out and it gets all itchy and bloody in that spot. The other cats had no problems though.10 July, 2008 at 5:10 pm #246736
Hair loss is listed as one of the possible side effects in selamectin.10 July, 2008 at 5:10 pm #246737
I havent heard of stronghold bule either, mbut have had a bad experience with revolution. Buster doesnt tolerate it at all, it makes him very sick, the rest of the cats seem to be fine with it though10 July, 2008 at 5:20 pm #246738
Hmmmmm. My guys have never had a reaction to Revolution at all, which is why I wanted to make sure what I’m ordering is exactly what they’ve gotten before. Now I’m wondering whether to even give them Revolution. Boss told me what he gave the dog was definitely labeled Revolution, and she’d never had any problems previuosly – well, this time it nearly killed her! I hadn’t taken into consideration that they could develop problems with it out of the blue like that. Boss is now wondering if there was something wrong with the three-packs (which was what he used) and they’re now substituting them with the stronghold.
I just don’t know. From what I find online, it looks like Stronghold is sold on the UK vebsites. The one I use is Canadian, and they’ve always sent me Revolution.
I’m leaning towards sending it back….10 July, 2008 at 5:25 pm #246739
I know Stronghold has been sold here in Finland but I visited the vet today and I saw them selling Revolution. Now it annoys me I didn’t ask them about it.10 July, 2008 at 5:33 pm #246740
Okay, both Revolution and Stronghold for Bob-sized cats contain 45mg/0.75 ml of selamectin. But that doesn’t nessasarily mean the other ingredients are identical, right?10 July, 2008 at 5:35 pm #246741
Oh, and by the way, the first few times I received the Revolution from this place, it was shipped from Canada where they’re based. The last two times, though, it was shipped from New Zealand!!!
Fishy????10 July, 2008 at 5:41 pm #246742
GD…… Call your vet. They may be familiar with the Stronghold, and know of any adverse reactions from said product. When you receive the Stronghold, compare its ingredients to a box of Revolution.10 July, 2008 at 5:46 pm #246743
GD if you are in anyway doubting the product, do not accept the package or return it. If the company is balking then there is something fishy. Maybe they have new owners. You can also dispute the charge with your credit card company.
Use what ever product you feel is best for Bob & Milo. Those guys are family not science experiments. (Yes. I feel strongly about it.)10 July, 2008 at 5:46 pm #246744
GD: I too would need reassurance from a vet they are indeed the same product. Generic medicines should be cheaper but as reliable and efficient as the original but I have heard conflicting stories.10 July, 2008 at 5:54 pm #246745
I agree, Miu. However if this IS a generic, thoy should have informed me and also I wouldn’t expect to pay the same price for it.
I’m thinking I’ll return the Stronghold when I get it and then buy Revolution directly from my vet even if it’s a bit more expensive than getting it online.10 July, 2008 at 5:57 pm #246746
I’ve seen commercials on TV advertising mail-order pet medicine companies. The commercials say that the meds are less expensive, save you a trip to the vet, etc. The reason that comes before any other why I will not order my pets’ medicines from them, though, is this. On the day when the medication I need is a euthanasia shot, my vet will be there with me and the mail-order company won’t.10 July, 2008 at 5:59 pm #246747
deadfleaz.com sells Revolution and at a much better price. They are an Aussie run shop thru ebay.10 July, 2008 at 6:01 pm #246748
I’m also thinking if for some reason either of my guys should ever have a reaction to Revolution, at least the vet would have a record of what I used on them, and it wouldn’t be something I got in the mail from Canada/New Zealand or who knows where.10 July, 2008 at 6:03 pm #246749
Soxsmam, you’re right, that is about $10 less for three than what I pay at PetDrugs. I’m starting to feel as if I should just go through the vet, though.
Question – if I go ask for Revolution from the vet, does he need Bobby to come in, or will they just sell it to me since Bobby is his patient?10 July, 2008 at 6:13 pm #246750
I was buying mine through the vet and Dr. K just said come in and get it when you need it. I then started using 1800petmeds. It is a company out of Florida and run by vets and they have a pethealth101 with pharmacy and vet support to customers. Betty White is one of the largest animal rights protectors and she sponsors this service. I know my neighbor uses deadfleaz and has had no complaints. I have always used heartguard and frontline. Have wondered about Revolution because it covers both concerns. Haven’t switched because what I use now works.
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