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    Look on some antiques websites before you try a dealer, then you’ll have some idea of value and will know if someone is trying to rip you off.

    #341850
    jcat
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    Please don’t throw them out, CM, I love antique linens and though they are going up here too, I am astounded at the prices they get in the US. As Petpntr says, if they are natural materials (cotton, silk, linen. damask), not synthetics, then they are precious, and if the lace is handmade, just think of the labour that went into them. Even if they are not perfect, antique doll collectors can use them for dolls’ clothes, craft and quilt workers can turn them into something beautiful and new, as can skilled dressmakers, etc etc. I am sure TKN would love them to bits and make very good use of them!

    In terms of value, there are three values for everything antique, insurance value (what it would cost to replace them — always the highest, because you have to take into account how long you’d have to search to find something similar), shop price, which is what you’d pay for them in a high-class shop (whoever sold them to the shop would of course get quite a lot less, because the shop adds on overheads) and auction price, which is what you’d pay for them at auction, relying on your own knowledge and at your own risk, so that’s probably the lowest price, but clever shoppers can find total bargains. Auction houses take quite a large cut (25-50%?) of the seller’s price, but they are doing the advertising to your target market for you.

    I think CBM is right. Take them to a posh antique shop or reputable auction house for an appraisal (tell them for insurance purposes), which you would have to pay a fee for. Then you know what you’re dealing with. Then maybe ebay, or google antique linen in your area to see who might be interested, or accept an offer from a shop once you know what their value is. I would tend to go ebay myself, as they would be exposed to knowledgeable buyers all over the country! They have an antique linens section, I’m sure, as I used to browse it! As Petpntr says, browse it yourself and see if you can see anything similar and what they are going for! Good luck (I LOVE antiques!)

    #341851
    jcat
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    Oops, sorry about the long post!

    #341852
    cricketsmama
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    lol jcat..no apology needed. I should check on them before tossing them. I just told hubby the ideas and the advice I received and he was like OH! so I think we can at least check it out. We do need some extra money (who doesn’t) so if we can sell these, it would be wonderful.

    #341853
    jcat
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    And if you’d rather not pay for an appraisal, I’d tend to go straight to ebay…

    #341854
    jcat
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    Just thought, CM, maybe your MIL or someone she knows or an elderly neighbour might be able to tell you straight off if they’re natural fabrics and actually old or not. There is always the burn test (take a thread out and hold a match flame to it — if it burns steadily, it’s natural, if it melts or flares up, it’s synthetic) but I always think I’d have to burn just about the whole darn thing to work out which it was, lol!

    #341855
    petpntr
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    There is not much sense paying for an appraisal if these tablecloths are not worth anything. You could pay $50 or $75 for an appraisal to find out you have something worth $10.00. First you need to establish that they are in fact antique. Something is old at 25 years but it is not an antique and not worth much more than what you would pay in the store for a new one. It can be quite lovely but that doesn’t mean it is valuable.

    You need to do your homework first or risk spending time and money for nothing. If they are crocheted tableclothes made by someones grandmother 25 years ago they are worthless except if you like them. If it is something like handmade Battenburg lace or tatting then you are talking about a whole different ball of wax.

    I am sure if you find any local antique store which carries linens you can go in and ask for their opinion. People used to do that all the time when I had my store. I specialized in Victoriana and had a fair stock of antique textiles as well. It is something antique dealers are used to dealing with and for the most part don’t mind doing as long as someone isn’t taking up lots of our time and asking for a written appraisal without expecting to pay for it. You don’t need to sell it to them. Just find out what kind of lace you have to begin with. Between that and finding something similar on eBay you will at least have a starting point to know whether they are worth investing any further time or money in them.

    #341856
    jcat
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    That’s great advice, Petpntr. I must admit, I was running ahead of myself and assuming they are old and natural materials but of course they might not be. I envy you having an antique shop, that is my dream job (though I don’t think I’d be able to bear to sell anything, lol!)

    #341857
    petpntr
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    You made me laugh JC. When I first opened my store I prided myself with purchasing only stock which I liked myself. My view was how could I possibly sell anything I wouldn’t want in my own home? I couldn’t! My sister used to come down and help me out once in awhile and she realized that the items I really loved didn’t seem to be moving. After a little observation she realized why. I put exhorbitant prices on those items I really didn’t want to part with knowing no one would pay the prices I asked. She got really upset with me and told me she thought I should put a sign in the window saying “no sales – viewing only”. I eventually got over it but it was not easy.

    #341858
    cricketsmama
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    That is good advice petpntr…I will look at them again tomorrow and see if I can find out anything about them. It could just be homemade items like you said. Heck..my MIL might even know.

    Thank you everyone for all your advice, it’s nice to have this family with so much knowledge!

    #341859
    jcat
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    Hee hee, I don’t think the pieces I really loved would even make it to the shop window, Petpntr.

    #341860
    petpntr
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    Well I don’t know JC there is something to be said about sharing a beautiful thing with others that gives you a lot of satisfaction. You might just change your mind if you had a store. Have you ever studied any aspect of antiques or do you know what category or era of antiques you like? It really is very fascinating and it is a never ending study because there are soooooo many different subjects to investigate.

    #341861
    jcat
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    Petpntr, I was brought up with antiques because my parents love them so and every opportunity they got, they were off antique hunting, in England and in NZ. At some point I got tired of staying in the car with my little brother reading comics and started going in the stores with them… fatal! We are all ridiculous hoarders and collectors except for my brother. Guess he stayed in the car too long…. lol

    I love and collect Art Nouveau, Art Deco and Georgian (which I really cannot afford, but if I ever won the lottery, that’s what I’d fill the house with), antique dolls, antique textiles, china, furniture, clothes and linen, and basically ANYTHING old, if I like it and can afford it. I tend to stop getting excited around about the time of the 1950s and 1960s except when it comes to clothes… A lot of my things are cracked and/or imperfect or in not wonderful condition (which made them affordable), but as long as they’re pretty, I don’t mind! I just love to think of the characters in the old books I love (Victorian novels, Jane Austen, Little Women etc) or their writers using something exactly like this! I watch Antiques Roadshow every chance I get and haunt the internet, antique shops, second hand and op shops, and auctions. Kitties and antiques, that’s basically me…! Aaaarggh, I am totally obsessed! But I write sometimes for a house and garden magazine so it actually comes in useful in my work (well, that’s my excuse and I’m sticking to it!)

    #341862
    petpntr
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    Wow JC we have a lot in common I think. It would be interesting to compare prices for antiques in New Zealand and antiques in Canada. We have a huge influx of English antiques here and of course we are also known for our Canadiana which I dislike immensley. Too rustic for me. When I had my store everything I owned was primarily Victorian. Ohmigosh the Victorians were horders and they loved knick knacks. I bought a house 2 years ago and decided I was tired of the clutter so I went into an Art Deco phase. I really do love the lines of Art Deco. It is popular here but not that popular yet which means there are still good bargains to be found. I recently found 4 art deco dining room chairs in white leather and I paid $12.00 for the lot!!! I also recently found an Art Deco china cabinet with the original bakelite handles that I got for $20.00. It was in poor shape but I fixed it up and sold it for $400.00. Here is the url for an art deco place I deal with sometimes. Either I have something they want to buy or they have something I want to buy. Works out nicely. You will love their merchandise.

    http://www.decollect.com/page/page/229491.htm

    Just as an afterthought since you know you are so interested and appreciate antiques so much you might want to consider taking a course or two on restroration and/or refinishing. It always comes in handy.

    #341863
    jcat
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    Twelve dollars? Ohmigosh, I’m moving to Canada. We have a bit of a shortage of antiques in NZ for loads of reasons — small population, never a lot of rich people here, the sea voyage out here was so long (3 months, I think) and you paid by weight so people didn’t bring a lot, then antiques weren’t popular here for a long time so stuff got sent to the dump, tipped over the cliff, or overseas buyers came in and couldn’t believe the low prices here so shipped loads overseas. A lot of our antique dealers have to go on buying trips overseas which, of course, makes them quite expensive for us. But you can find the occasional bargain if you look hard.

    That site is just gorgeous, I am going to sit looking at it all evening!

    I don’t think there are courses here, unfortunately (that small population thing again), I would have to go to Australia… 🙁

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