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  • #861081

    UrbanSidhe
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    Hi all,

    Hoping to get some advice for weaning and litter training.

    I upgraded Calliope to a much bigger box. It has her bed/heater on one end, a bit of space then a litter tray on the other side, it’s lined in puppy pads. So far, when I stimulate her, I do it over the tray and leave the urine behind. I know she has some control since she squatted and peed on the couch last night. So far she is unimpressed with this whole thing. Of course, she ate the litter first (it’s a non clumping clay).

    I made a slurry of mostly formula and a little kitten food and put it in her bottle. She sucks, but not very hard. She bites everything around her when she’s hungry and chews on the nipple. When I replace the slurry with formula, she turns into a little vacuum. She has no interest in lapping either slurry or formula.

    Any advice or cheers would be appreciated.

    #861091

    pussigato
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    I’m sorry to hear about your older girl. ๐Ÿ˜ฅ The first thing is get some enzyme cleaner and clean the spots where she’s already peed. As long she’s smells the pee she’ll think it’s an appropriate place to pee.

    Because she’s so small, Calliope may not be able to get from the bed/couch to her litter box in time. She’s learning how to pee but she’s not in complete control. As long as she’s away from her nest your best move is to periodically put her in her litter box. It will take patience but soon she’ll have it down.

    She slurps her milk because she can do it. Oftentimes, she can’t suck the gruel out of the bottle. Make a larger hole for your wee girl.

    PG

    #861092

    pussigato
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    Sorry for the slow response. The first thing is get some enzyme cleaner and clean the spots where she’s already peed. As long she’s smells the pee she’ll think it’s an appropriate place to pee.

    Because she’s so small, Calliope may not be able to get from the bed/couch to her litter box in time. She’s learning how to pee but she’s not in complete control. As long as she’s away from her nest your best move is to periodically put her in her litter box. It will take patience but soon she’ll have it down.

    She slurps her milk because she can do it. Oftentimes, she can’t suck the gruel out of the bottle. Make a larger hole for your wee girl.

    PG

    #861094

    Kittyzee
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    I agree with PG, just cut the end of the nipple off so the formula/food can pass easily through the nipple. Don’t squeeze the bottle, but control the flow by tipping the end of the bottle up for faster or down to slow it. Once she gets this slurry into her, she won’t be so frantic acting when eating. A lot of kittens are slow to want to eat from a dish or lap milk. It will come when they are ready, so just keep offering whenever you feel like it.

    #861096

    UrbanSidhe
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    I had cleaned the spot up immediately with an enzymatic cleaner. I’ve only seen her go once and I didn’t have the tray up yet when she did because I didn’t realize she was able to go on her own. I couldn’t tell if she’s been peeing on her bedding previously. Do I keep stimulating her or just start waiting for her to go by herself? At 4 weeks, shouldn’t she already be mostly going on her own, even if not in the litter tray?

    We did better this morning with the meat bottle. So just periodically keep offering a spoon with food on it until she gets it? Anything else I can do?

    #861122

    Kittyzee
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    Kittens, like human babies, are creatures who like routine. Do the same things at the same time every day. Feeding, stimulating, or putting her in her litter tray after eating. If you pee her over her tray and it goes into the litter and also put a couple of her poops in there, then when she is in there sniffing around, she will finally put two and two together.

    Keep offering her the solid food, but she is 4 weeks old and mine weren’t interested in plain, solid foods that early. They need their formula at this age, especially for the hydration, but also for all the extras and the fat that it offers. Also, the closeness they get when you are holding them and their tummies get full. Burp her afterwards, then love her, then in 20 minutes or so put her in her litter tray.

    #861125

    pussigato
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    Kittens aren’t fully weaned until 8-10 weeks. It may take her a few more weeks to get the hang of peeing/pooping and eating on her own. Patience

    I’m not sure where the 4-5 week limit came from but I’m as guilty thinking my kits should be doing their own business by then.

    You’re used to older cats and learning with a new kitten presents own its challenges. It sounds like you’re doing just fine though.

    PG

    #861145

    UrbanSidhe
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    Thanks for all the help!

    Several of the vlogs and sites I’ve been to say that kittens should be mostly eliminating on their own by the end of 3 weeks. Even vet vlogs have said this.

    Fortunately, litter training is going very well. So far she’s gone twice in the box all on her own (she even walked into the box without me being present). ๐Ÿ™‚ However, we’re still having some issues with stool. I was observing her and it looked like she was straining a bit and she was meowing a little. She had a little bit on her rectum when I fed her later. She didn’t go yesterday but stimulating her worked tonight. She’s not real fond of being stimulated. I may try mixing powder and liquid formula to see if I can’t get it to make it easier on her.

    But it’s good to know that weaning may take some time. I’ll keep introducing her to a bit of soft food every feeding.

    #861150

    pussigato
    Participant

    Donโ€™t worry if your girl doesn’t pee or poop after every feeding.

    You give her a couple of drops of mineral oil in her milk. Some people have put a dab of cat hairball paste on their lips to help kits.

    It’s helpful to gently massage her tummy.

    #861212

    UrbanSidhe
    Participant

    I don’t worry when she doesn’t go every feeding (actually I would worry if she was), I start to worry after a day or so. I feed her olive oil with every meal but she still only poos every couple of days. She still hasn’t pooed in her litter box, and I haven’t been able to stimulate her to poo for 2 days. It’s been like this since I switched her to the powder formula.

    Shouldn’t they poo once a day? When I do get her to go, I feel there’s a lot(usually soft but some times it’s half soft half toothpaste like. She seems fine though. Energetic, she’s over a pound now in weight. She eats good. Just irregular.

    Still working on weaning.

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