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  • #50979
    AngelTheRagdoll
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    Please don’t criticize about Whiskas. I know it is bad, but she is only on it for now.

    I have been feeding her the pouches, and I have been feeding her the meat ones only. she loves them.

    I have run out of meat and decided to give her the chicken ones, it comes in a pack of 12, 4 different flavours. When the meat ran out last time I brought another packet of 12 and fed her the meat ones again, she is fine on these.

    When i decided to give her the chicken ones, i gave her a little bit.

    She ended up going to the toilet and it was like diarrhoea, she is still running around and being herself.

    But I was thinking, i don’t know if it should do that considering its still whiskas.

    Why is this happening? and what do you recommend i do?

    Thanks heaps!

    #728478
    Moonshadow_NZ
    Moderator

    Angel, i haven’t heard anything against Whiskas and I believe my Mother feeds her cat Whiskas pouches. The problem may be just changing from one type of meat pouch to another. Try and keep her on the pouch that doesn’t upset her tummy.

    She might be better on kitten food for a while yet as it has more of what she needs to grow strong and healthy.

    I hope she gets over her diarrhoea quickly.

    #728479
    AngelTheRagdoll
    Participant

    So do i. I feel so bad.

    My mum has always fed her cats Whiskas, when I was living there I fed him that too. He’s been on it all his life. When I moved out I decided I want a cat of my own, and I decided to get a Kitten. I am feeding her Whiskas at the moment because thats what her breeders were feeding her. I would like to change as I know there are better things out there.

    I’m a bit concerned about her Diarrhoea, its pretty bad, but she’s still running around and drinking, I’ll just have to wait and see if it gets better once her body gets rid of the chicken. Then I will have to start on the meat again, and leave her on it. 🙂 I know she does well on this.

    #728480
    KarlMona
    Participant

    Hi Everyone, I’m new here and a first time cat owner. We have two kittens (brother and sister) who have been with us for almost three weeks. The problem is with Karl. About a week ago he started having really bad diarrhea (watery) and over the weekend he stopped eating. We’ve been to the vet twice and this evening I’m bringing him again. He does drink but I literally have to feed him food on my fingers before he’ll even think about eating. He eats a lot less than his sister (Mona) and she looks like a monster next to him. It’s breaking our hearts!

    They are 11 weeks old and had their first vaccinations. Karl also got an injection last Saturday that should help boost his immune system but he didn’t get any better. My husband and I have never talked so much about poop and it’s color and consistency :). Poor Karl is also incontinent so there are plenty of messy things waiting for us in the morning and throughout the day.

    I guess I’m here looking for support. Although they’ve only been with us for the last three weeks we love them both already and want both to be healthy and happy. I’d really appreciate it if anyone has had a very poorly kitten that got better, bigger and stronger. I could really do with some happy stories :).

    #728481
    My Rockstar
    Participant

    Questions:

    1. Where did you get Karl and Mona?

    2. Have they been dewormed?

    3. Approximately how much does Karl eat in a day (currently)

    4. What did the vet say? Prior to this evenings meeting?

    5. What is the color and consistency of his poop? Still very watery?

    #728482
    Blu
    Participant

    N did u give him any medicine?? Did he drink cow milk it may b lactose

    #728483
    Jeankit
    Participant

    Here is a link for diarrhea:

    http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/43492

    Link for cat nutrition:

    http://www.catinfo.org/

    Another helpful link on feeding:

    http://www.dailykitten.com/chat/topic/45079

    Also click pink tags on upper right for more chat links

    #728484
    KarlMona
    Participant

    Hi Rocky

    1. We bought them from a private family and they told they were 16 weeks old. The vet straight away said that’s impossible and that they were no older then 10 weeks (which makes them 13 weeks now).

    2. The vet dewormed them twice.

    3.I’m very happy to say that Karl turned a corner and has started eating more. When I wrote the first post he was eating 20 grams if we were lucky.

    4. The vet ran tests and we now know he has/had distemper. We’ve had to bring him to the vet everyday so that he can be put on a drip for a few minutes. He dropped down to only 740 grams and at 13 weeks he was a little bag of bones (Mona 1,600 grams). Today’s weight was a beautiful 860 grams.

    5. The vet has been giving him anti serum injections along with a pain killer and today his poop is darker in color (it was yellow/white) and it’s starting to take form although it’s still far from solid.

    6. We have to bring him again tomorrow for his fluids and if his weight is up again then the vet said he has a very real chance of surviving but he’s still unwell.

    To Blu, thanks for the idea – I must have looked at over a hundred websites since he got sick and I saw that cats are lactose intolerant. We did give them watered down cat milk a couple of weeks ago and Mona had stomach problems within a few hours so they’ll never get that milk again.

    Thanks Jeankit for the links, I saw two of them earlier and they’ve been a great help, thank you!

    When I wrote the first post I really thought he was going to die and then that evening the vet said that he probably wouldn’t make it but that we’d give him a chance with the fluids and injections and hope for the best. He’s a long way from being healthy but after two weeks of cleaning up poop, constantly washing towels and sheets and watching him getting smaller and weaker I’m really happy that he’s gained some weight.

    Thanks guys for your posts. I was a very lonely feeling and hopefully he’ll pull through.

    #728485
    KarlMona
    Participant

    To anyone who is there,

    Karl is doing a little better but he still has diarrhea. He’s been to the vet everyday since last Thursday to be put on a drip and I’m happy to say that he’s now 1 kilo in weight. Unfortunately his sister is now sick. The vet thinks that she picked up the virus through licking him clean. Because she’s 1,400 grams in weight she’s in better shape but is now also getting the drip on a daily basis and I feel like I’m losing the plot with all the vet visits and sleepless nights worrying about them. We got them just over three weeks ago and since then it’s been nothing but incontinence and diarrhea. Everyday I’ve to wash the floor and change the bedsheets that I’m using to cover our sofas. I love them dearly and there’s no question that they’ll stay with us but with the best of intentions I really feel like I’m going a little mad from them. I had a different idea of what having kittens would be like but the reality really bites. Please be clear that I love them but MAN it’s a really hard time at the moment. I just want them to be happy and healthy. If there’s anyone out there who had sick kittens that got better then please lend your support. I have a wonderful husband whose really useless when it comes to caring for new arrivals and I feel really alone.

    #728486
    tzeetzee’s mama
    Participant

    I don’t have much experience with sick kittens as I only have one cat, but my boyfriend and I had rough times with our Tzeetzee when she was very little, and experienced something of a miracle. I found her on the streets, she was alone and a horrible winter was just rolling in… I didn’t even plan on having any pets but seeing her like that, I decided then and there to take her home. All was well for a week until she got really ill. The vet suspected it was an infection that had incubated in her little body and had started wreaking havoc. I carried her to the vet on my arms every day for about 10 days (didn’t have a transporter or car available), the poor thing was like a pincushion from all the shots she received. She hadn’t even licked any food for a week, vomited a lot and had diarrhea (her tummy was so upset from all the antibiotics), she became skin and bones and wasn’t moving much at all. Like you, I felt like I was going crazy, couldn’t sleep I was so worried and felt very, very alone. The vet, bless her for trying so hard, wasn’t very optimistic. And there were nights when I would just lay next to her, checking if she’s still breathing, bawling my eyes out, and even then, when things were so bleak, there was a piece of me that just wouldn’t give up, and I would tell my Tzeetzee everything would be just fine, and she would grow up to be healthy and strong. And she did… One day she decided she would eat a teaspoon of food, slowly the vomiting went away, then she started eating a little, then a bit more, the diarrhea went away and my little trooper was, very slowly, on her way to recovery.

    I guess what I learned from all this was to always be positive when things are rough, I’m sure cats can sense this optimism. And even though situations like these are so frustrating and tiring to us humans, it’s the cats that are going through the worst, and they really need us to not feel alone in it. And patience… Neverending bucketloads of it. Think to yourself that no matter how horrible things can be, it all HAS to pass and better times MUST be ahead. Rewinding the film on what went on with Tzeetzee I have tears in my eyes, but it was all so worth it now that she’s happy and healthy.

    Keep up with all the good you’re doing for your kits, and remember that with A LOT of patience and TLC, the vet visits and diarrhea will all be a thing of the past, and you will be able to enjoy many happy times together… Let us know how things are going, and good luck! Lots of positive thoughts being sent your way.

    #728487
    KarlMona
    Participant

    Oh my God Tzeetzee’s mama you have me in tears. Thank you so much for that lovely post! I still have tears in my eyes from reading the part where you lay next to her checking if she was breathing. I had a similar experience with Karl. He is gaining weight slowly but he still has diarrhea which means that he often drops little ‘spots’ onto the floor and the sofa.

    He has started to play with his sister more, so she’s releasing her energy on him and not us (if you saw my fading scratch scars you’d understand my relief, ha ha).

    Full credit to you for carrying her to the vet everyday for ten days. We also don’t have a car but with the two we had to get a carry case. I stopped bringing him on a daily basis last week after eight days and tomorrow they’re both going back for a check up and I know the vet won’t be happy to hear that Karl still has diarrhea. He gave Karl special food which he’ll finish this evening and I think the vet was hoping it would harden up his poop but at least we know it’s not his normal food that was to blame. We’re spending a small fortune on their food hoping that it’ll pay off in the end. It’s 100% natural with high levels of protein; when I think of it they’re probably eating better quality food than we are :).

    I’m trying to be positive but it’s not easy at times. We love them both as if they were children – my mom is hoping we’ll get around to having human children but to be honest I don’t think we could handle it, ha ha.

    We have them now almost five weeks and the first three days were the only ‘healthy’ ones we had. It’s been tough but after reading your story I’m really hanging on for that ‘rewinding the film’ moment you’ve described.

    Heartfelt thanks to you Tzeetzee’s mama for taking the time to share your story. I’m sorry it took me so long to check the thread. I’ll give an update soon. Thanks again, really.

    #728488
    My Rockstar
    Participant

    Hello, sorry it took me so long to check this thread too. It is good to hear that Karl made it, and that Mona-though recovering, she will pull through too. She has a good mama who is watching out for her and i am sure she will do just fine. I know it looks bleak, but you have to have confidence and faith.

    I had a similar experience with Rocky. I found him in the street, it was maybe 30 degrees F outside. At first i didn’t know what he was, didn’t know if it was a kitten or what. i stopped my truck and called out. This tiny little thing came weeble wobbling over to me and when i picked him up i was aghast. his eyes were crusted shut, he couldnt breathe out of his nose as it was all crusted, he was covered in filth and dried snot- he was a mess. I called in to work and took him immediately to the vet who told me his chances of making it were slim. he gave him a shot of antibiotic and after that i was on my own. I fed and watered Rocky with an eye dropper and cleaned him up. for the first week he would not eat on his own, i had to feed him with an eye dropper. There were times when i really didnt think he would make it. He turned a year this August. He is a long lean bird hunting machine. He had cataracts and one eye cleared up but the other is still milky and has limited vision in that eye, but it doesnt stop him from stalking and playing. he was the first to accept my rescue kitten June Bug and my foster kitten Free.

    Hang in there, I know it’s scary, especially when we really cant control the outcome… But have faith (especially in yourself)

    Tzeetzee, thank you for sharing your story. it is amazing how finding one little ball of fur can change your life forever! You never think you could care that much for one little four legged creature.

    #728489
    tzeetzee’s mama
    Participant

    @ KarlMona – You’re very welcome. I’m so glad that Karl is gaining his weight despite the diarrhea, sounds like a very good thing. I don’t know much on the topic (Tzeetzee’s diarrhea went away after she stopped having meds and started eating again), but I’ve seen pumpkin often being mentioned on this forum – adding canned pumpkin (with no additives) to their formula or food should help with poop consistency as it’s rich in fiber. I also heard plain white yogurt is good (I think in England/USA/Australia they would call it Greek yogurt or buttermilk). Dairy products are a no-no for diarrhea, with yogurt being an exception, it has probiotic qualities thanks to it’s cultures of good bacteria, that help regulate the digestive tract. So I guess it would be great if both Karl and Mona would have licks of it from time to time.

    I laughed at the food thing you mentioned, my bf often reminds me that Tzeetzee eats better than me. Now that she’s grown I’m pretty sure she also eats more in quantity than I do… Oh well.

    Keeping my fingers crossed for the vet checkup tomorrow. Please give the little ones chin scritches for me. They’re so very lucky to have you as their human mama, hang in there!

    @ Rocky – Thank you also for sharing your story, you’re a hero for the help, care and fostering you have provided for your cats. It really is amazing how much they can change our lives, they are such special little creatures.

    #728490
    KarlMona
    Participant

    @Tzeetzee’s mama and @Rocky. Thank you so much for all the support! We’re having another bumpy time at the moment. The weekend before last Karl and Mona had their second vaccinations. It’s wasn’t an easy decision for the vet but the risk of not getting it outweighed the risk of giving it especially as he’d just have to get the first all over again.

    They got the shots on Saturday morning and Sunday morning Karl had vomiting and diarrhea at the same time before falling on his side and having a seizure. I thought he was dying and I couldn’t believe what I was seeing. It was terrifying. I picked him up in a towel and sat with him. The seizure only lasted 30 secs and for the rest of the evening he didn’t eat, just slept and drank some water. Mona was very concerned for him and got distressed so we separated her and my husband played with her in the other room for the evening. We rang the emergency vet who didn’t answer his phone or leave on the answering machine (big thanks to that jerk). We rang our own vet the next day and thankfully Karl at that stage had started eating again. The vet said that of course it wasn’t good but it could be part of the virus and once he’s eating and drinking it would be less stressful to keep him at home and if anything changed to just call him. Our vet has been incredible!

    (I should also say that they didn’t get the rabies vaccination and the shots they got had dead viruses in them not live ones).

    So from last Monday he was eating like a trooper and he gained weight although the diarrhea continued. Then last Thursday his diarrhea got worse (became watery) and his appetite decreased to the point where today he won’t eat anything including freshly boiled chicken which he usually loves. Guess whose off to the vet later?!

    The bizarre thing is that the timing is exactly the same as with the first vaccination. For the first day he was slow then he came round but about a week after he lost his appetite. I’m hoping that a few days on the drip like the last time and he’ll bounce back again.

    I’m sorry I don’t have good news and it’s causing a strain being so worried about him all the time. If I knew he’d definitely survive then I’d shut up and put up but I don’t want to lose him and it’s the lack of control as you said Tzeetzee’s mama that’s the hardest.

    On a more positive note Mona is fantastic. She’s big and bold and talks all the time. She’s sitting on my lap at the moment, watching the screen and pawing at my fingers.

    At the start of the thread I asked for positive stories and you’ve both given me those, thank you so much. You’re also both wonderful special people to take in stray sick kittens. I really appreciate you sharing your stories with this very worried first time kitten mama!!

    I’ll keep you posted.

    Thanks again.

    #728491
    My Rockstar
    Participant

    Thank you for keeping us in the loop. I credit this site for helping me through with June Bug. The wonderful angels that visit are so full of advice, love, and support. I wish i had thought to check into an online support when I was going through the tough times with Rocky. Maybe somebody would have had advice about the cataracts on his eyes and could have steered me through a course of action for better treatment. He is now blind in one eye, looks like retinal scarring to me- prolly from the viral infections. Asking the vet was like asking the wall to diagnose. She thought it was his inner eye lid not retracting. Cant blame her, vets around here are large animal. Anyway, enough about me.

    You can come here anytime. What i love about this site is that it is all about support. I am not a hardcore on this site but bless the ones that are. Their wisdom has helped many a first time parent, long time parent, and countless cats.

    Good luck to you and too Karl. Lots of white light and healing prayers to him!

    #728492
    KarlMona
    Participant

    I’m the same as you Rocky; I randomly check in and look at other threads as well. Even if I haven’t a clue about the medical side I think maybe it’ll help someone else to know they’re not alone with their problems – moral support. Plus after all the hassle with Karl I feel like an expert in diarrhea and incontinence :). We’re lucky to have a great vet so I can comfortably leave Karl’s care in his hands but earlier I felt like I was going crazy from poop everywhere and thinking he wasn’t going to make it which is why I asked for positive stories.

    I love this site and I really believe that it’s saved cats’ lives – at the very least it’s helped train the owners how to be good parents :).

    Your poor little pirate Rocky! The good thing about cats is how resourceful they are so I’m sure he’ll learn to adjust to his limitations. We were told it could happen to Karl because of his distemper so it’s possible that other viral infections cause blindness too.

    Karl went to the vet last night who gave him a combi injection with an antibiotic inside (he had a high temperature). The vet said that afterwards he’d feel marvelous and should eat like a horse. Man was he right!!! After days of hoping Karl would eat 5grams of food it was incredible to see him eat a 100gram pouch over a couple of hours.

    Thank you for your support and the time you’ve taken to write your post. I don’t know about eye infections but maybe there’s a chance, however small, that it’ll heal? Whatever happens with his eye Rocky is a survivor. He had a lot of help from you but he did make it against the odds. His start in life wasn’t easy but somehow you two met and he got a chance to live. I really hope you can get a clear answer about his eye though. I’ll be thinking of you two and sending you both good wishes! Thanks again!!

    #728493
    tzeetzee’s mama
    Participant

    Oh KarlMona, I’m sorry you guys are going through these never ending ups and downs. Karl’s vaccine reaction sounds absolutely dreadful. I really hope that the last episode of appetite loss and awful diarrhea was, as your vet suggested, only related to the bad reaction to viruses in the vaccines, and now that Karl’s done with them (at least for the year), his health will steadily get better. What a little fighter he is though, eh? Big yays for him eating again! Please do let us know how things are going.

    Sending both you and Rocky {{big hugs}}

    #728494
    KarlMona
    Participant

    As always, big thanks for the posts! Karl ate like a monster today and it was just wonderful to see. We’re back at the vet tomorrow with him to bring a poop sample as he may have a parasite (giardia is the name used but we live in Germany so maybe theres a different name in English). He was tested before for parasites and they came back negative but because it was so watery (sorry) the vet thinks the results were inconclusive. The good news is that if it is that virus then it’s relatively easy to treat. It would also explain why Mona was poorly awhile back – she may also have it but is bigger so better able to cope.

    You’re absolutely right Tzeetzee’s Mama, he has an incredible spirit hidden in his frail little body! I really enjoyed watching him swipe at Mona this evening, especially seeing her shocked expression at him fighting back for once – usually we’ve had to rescue him from her, ha ha.

    I’ll certainly keep you posted – thanks so much for your interest and kindness. I’m Irish and it hasn’t been easy talking to the vet about Karl in another language – I never in my wildest dreams thought I’d be discussing kitten diarrhea in German, ha ha. It’s a whole other world. It’s also been lonely worrying about him and not having friends here to talk it over. I have great friends at home but none have cats and so I’ve turned to this website for help. Thank you all so much, you’re wonderful!!!

    #728495
    KarlMona
    Participant

    What a mad time it’s been! Since my last post both kittens took a bad turn with both having incontinence, severe vomiting and refusing to eat. Fun fun fun. The ‘good’ thing is that we finally have a full diagnosis as they tested positive for feline parvovirus. Unfortunately there is only 30% survival chance with treatment so of course we were devastated.

    It’s been 3 days since we got the diagnosis and the vet has been pumping them with all sorts of medicine and fluids everyday. This morning we had a little good news when we were told that if nothing dramatic happens then it looks like they are over the worst. Both have lost a lot of weight again so they need fattening up once the treatment is over. I’ve had to syringe feed them special food and I’m a little worried that they’ll hate me because of it but I’ve no other choice. If anyone has had to assist feed their cat then I’d love to know if it ruined the bonding experience?

    So far we’ve spent almost 1,000 euro on them and the treatment isn’t over. It’s ridiculous money that we could really use for other things but they’re now our babies and once they survive it’ll be a small (cough) price to pay.

    Thanks again to those how have offered their support. If anyone has had any experience in feline parvovirus then all comments are welcome.

    Wish us luck!

    #728496
    tzeetzee’s mama
    Participant

    Oh my, I’m sorry for the diagnosis, poor babies… But I’m glad that at least you now know 100% what it is. I’m not familiar with feline parvovirus, is it possible to treat it completely or is it something that comes and goes?

    Don’t worry about the assist feeding, even though they may not like it now, it’s for their good and they will eventually (my vet assured me of this) realize that it does help them feel better, no matter how much they b*tch about it.

    I also had to assist feed Tzeetzee, and in no way did it ruin the bond we have. The only thing is, my bf tried to assist feed her a couple of times instead of me, and honestly he was kinda rough when he did it, so I think Tzeetzee associated this roughness with the kind+brand of food that my bf tried to give her, and now she won’t even smell this food, let alone eat it :/

    So I guess patience, and being as gentle as possible is very important.

    I’ll still have you guys in my thoughts, and hope that Karl and Mona, with their strong spirits and your wonderful love and care, can fight this virus off!!

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