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  • #852126
    Stephanie
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    So I’ve written about my kitten Smudge before. He was the initial hider and then turned into the aggressive terror. He is such a frustrating kitten and I really don’t know what to do for him anymore. He is the unfriendliest kitten ever. No one can touch him except when his mouth is full of treats. He hates being petted. With a passion. His tail starts thrashing and he rolls from side to side to get away. Playtime is a nightmare for me because he gets so aggressive that I’m afraid of him. He destroyed Dabird in 2 minutes. We have three play sessions a day for 20 minutes. I know interactive play is important. Sometimes I’m just walking by and he swats at me. With claws out. Ouch. He used to sit by me on the couch and sometimes climb on my lap but now he’s totally distant. He prefers the window sill or dirty laundry. He’s taking to sleeping for hours on end. I really care for him and I’m hoping everyday things will get better but it doesn’t. Will he ever be affectionate or this just his personality?

    #852130
    Kittyzee
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    Stephanie, I don’t remember how old Smudge is. But one thing for sure, I would take him to the vet for a checkup. If he hasn’t been neutered, then get it done as most vets will neuter when they weigh 2 lbs. I would also have him checked to see if he’s a candidate for medication. I don’t recommend people doing this unless every avenue has been exhausted. Some cats are so fearful (their fear levels are over and above the normal reaction) that sometimes the only answer is medication. This is best discussed with your vet after he has been neutered to see if horomones play a part in his personality. I would read up on as much kitten socialization stuff as I could get my hands on, the internet is full of good advice as well as Jackson Galaxy’s site on socializing cats. It’s a slow process for some, but you can get where you want to be with him. Most times, the biting and scratching isn’t meanness, it’s fear.

    #852134
    Stephanie
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    Hi kittyzee. Smudge is 5 months and over two lbs. but our vet won’t neuter him until 6 months. We have been to the vet and were told he’s healthy and behavioral issues are not his area of expertise. I had trouble with him since I brought him home. He was scared for two weeks straight and now he’s turned aggressive and aloof. I have tried so many things. Cat tree by the window. Plenty of toys. I stay with him all the time unless I’m not at work. I dont even run errands. Heck I even plan my work days around my husbands so he is only alone 2 or 3 times a week but on those days I come home on lunch and give him love and playtime. I really don’t know what would make him scared.

    #852150
    katzenjammer
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    After confirming that there were no health issues, I did have a behaviourist do a home visit with Dorry early on. He gave me some good tips, based on watching my interaction with my kit, in familiar surroundings, and checking my set-up. I did not put all his advice into practice as consistently as I should have (my bad) but I did learn how to use distraction and how to be aware of when my kit was getting into bitey mode. Other help came from a vet tech at my vet’s. If you decide that a behaviourist is the way to go, you might ask vet for a referral/recommendation just so you know that they have the right credentials. That’s what I did. Just a thought.

    #852151
    Kittyzee
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    Sounds like you are doing all the right things. Is there any way you could get him to another vet? Just an option, as around here we don’t have vets close so a trip is a major ordeal. I think a lot of it is he needs neutered. So sad that you both are living your lives around his behavior. I think KJ might be right though, a behaviorist or another vet with a blood workup sounds like your best bet. I think that a lot of it may be the neutering situation, since a male cat unneutered can think of nothing else but getting outside and populating the world.

    #852175
    Stephanie
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    Hi KJ. I live in germany so I’m not sure about a cat behaviorist. I would have to look around. It almost seems like he’s jealous of me sometimes. I had a friend over and after he hid for two hours he came out and meowed non stop because I was talking to my friend. He scratched me real good on the leg to prove his point. My girlfriend left because he was annoying her. I kinda know when he’s in attack mode because he gets really big pupils and then he charges me. Hubby just gets a big swat on the leg with claws. I’m scared to even sit on my couch because he likes to attack me there.

    #852176
    Stephanie
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    Hi kittyzee. I could take him to another vet. I didnt know that neutering made such a big difference. I really hope he calms down a bit after. I just hope its not his lack of socialization in his early kitten days and its just his character. Its so sad i was so excited to get him and he’s a terror and really not nice to be around.

    #852177
    Stephanie
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    I meant I hope it’s not his character.

    #852182
    Anonymous
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    I have one thought to add Stephanie. This may sound strange but go with me on it. Valerian. They come in capsules and while expensive? You don’t need much. So you need is a fingertip or geometry couple of days. They don’t take to catnip at that age or I’d say use it. There is catnip spray but someone tried it and it didn’t work. Your choice what to do with the rest of the capsule it’s kinda hard to reuse and I threw it out but only had to use that route on him twice. We have an alternate solution. Flashlight. Keep it turned on to make a shadow on the wall. Hope either helps. If not? There are behavioral therapists for cats. I used to read another site and a Greek woman with a cat that slashed her mother’s leg so bad!y she needed hospitalization got one. That worked. Don’t know if you have that kind of money, nobody does really.

    #852184
    Stephanie
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    Hi Yuri,
    I would do the behavioral therapist thing. It’s not really a money thing. I even called one today. She flat out told me get a second kitten and there is not much she can do for me. I livd in germany and having one cat is seen as cruel. We really don’t want two cats nor can I afford vet bills for two of them. I’ll try the valerian if he doesn’t calm down after his surgery. I really Hope he does.

    #852187
    Anonymous
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    Your problem is the same as here. You see back where I come from…you can’t tell. People are from all over but the base make up of this country is French and German and the Message been here since the 1600s too. Why I bring this up is because where I live now is supposed to be religion friendly and I’ve gotten rude glares and verbal emotional cruelty over my star of David. Despite this Mr.Zarrow a Holocaust survivor who gave them lots of money.????? Now back to this…..um….behavioral therapist. Let’s just say I had two medical professionals here look at (and they had degrees) my blood tests and tell me I’m not a diabetic. My sugar was 130. This person refused to help you and I have no clue why. You’re not an immigrant and while Lydia has a problem? Yours is just as valid. I don’t know but if you have access to other means by which to seek out a behavioral therapist I would try again but do what we call “field” him or her over the phone. Ask questions. Don’t just let the mensch come out. It’s costly! Having two cats isn’t good unless they’re from the same litter. Cleanliness and all that. They groom each other. It’s stunning to me the reaction you got. Not smh (shaking my head) unless you count in a surprised and shocked way. If you love your little one you’ll do all you can for him. Keep your home stress free. What? If anything, is upsetting him. Do you have arguments? It’s not always easy to keep yourself quiet. We all have opinions. The Greek woman lived with her mother and they had? Greek style arguments and the cat got upset over it. They also have a bird cage he knocked over. Yuri likes the video of birds but I would never keep one in this apartment. In the early years of my dad’s second marriage he had birds but no cat. Given how little the kitten? Valerian every other day in small doses might be alright but it builds up. Try not to use it too often, just enough to calm him down then stop. It can get scary Be Careful. Before you even try Valerian research other herbs that might be helpful. Look on the internet for something called Felisha. It mimics the scent of the mother and since you can afford it? It may be the magic cure. Lots of people have success with it. Time it will take to send it to you yes but? Worth every penny. It’ll calm him right down. Keep me posted.

    #852202
    Stephanie
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    Hi Yuri,
    Thank you. I have feliway diffusers in the house. Those seem to help a little. I never argue in my home around Smudge. I pretty much walk on eggshells so he doesnt get scared or upset. I really dont think hes scared anyways. He seems to be jealous of me and he takes his aggression out on me. And I’m the one whose nice to him. My husband isn’t mean to him by any means but he just let’s him be. I’ve contacted another woman today and she works with homeopathic remedies for cats. She will mix me something together for him after he’s neutered. Ive heard good things about her and she was very nice. I do love him alot. Like i said i couldnt take on a second cat. You’re really nice. All of you here are. Thanks

    #852235
    Anonymous
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    That? Would be the edipuss complex. Glad you contacted someone else. I’d be careful what she mixes, make sure cats arent allergic to any of it. Be cautious

    #852299
    Stephanie
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    Hi Yuri Ben,

    I’ll be careful. They are bach bluten. I don’t know the English translation. He’ll be neutered next month on the 11th. I hope that takes some fire out of him. Then I’ll see if he needs something else. He was nice today. He sat on my lap most of the afternoon. So far no scratches.

    #852300
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Be careful with anything with flowers. Allergies are plentiful there as with roots. It’s great he sat with you. The problem I have with Yuri is the pet toy companies don’t exactly make toys for boys. I tried to replace his lost ball and all they had were 3 of them that were soft and tinkle instead of roll and sound louder. They’re swat toys which isn’t really good. He’s a good catcher. Loves to jump. We do have his white football though. Yay! But? It’s gonna need replacing soon too. May have more luck with that. It’ll be good when you get him neutered. Definitely a way to tone down those hormones. Then at 6 months they become teenagers. A whole nother story but just a phase. More distraction toys will help. You might be able to pick up something at the Christmas market but make sure there are no detachable pieces.

    #852341
    Stephanie
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    Smudge loves dabird but he destroys the feathers within 5 minutes. It was expensive to keep replacing them. I have other fishing rods but they are not interesting to him. Even though i try to imitate prey. I also have large rolling balls. They are really loud and Smudge hates them. His favorite is a small soft gummy ball that he can pick up in his mouth and carry around. Smudge is more of an attacker. He likes to take a big pillow and bite and rabbit kick it. Anyways im eventuslly going to have to get another replacement for dabird. How old is your Yuri?

    #852362
    Anonymous
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    Yuri is 6 months old. The feathers are a danger anyway. Smudge could choke on them. Yuri likes to jump. He’ll bat at things outside but is getting adjusted to doing so inside. I’m confused as to why but?? Well…then he pounces outside too. The batteries I bought for the flashlight ran out fast so now we don’t have it either til maybe next week. Cheap shouldn’t mean they don’t work. Dabird is a fad. You either…as we say here…go with the flow or you don’t and your point about the negative aspect should dissuade others from it. It’s not cheap by any means.
    Yuri went to the bathroom outside but I think it’s because one of his foods is a proble. You first good for what ails ya…and for cats, but the mariners catch was not good for him so now it’s find a fish. He won’t eat whitefish nor salmon so I hope they have tuna and chicken because I can’t make tuna and egg the 4th wet because that’s not good for cats. I found out that’s really true by giving him it as a fourth option. He still wants dry but I’m all about variation. People feed dogs one food only and they eat human food too. Cats can’t. The other thing is? Feeding cats one or the other (wet or dry) isn’t good neither is only dry. Young? They need fat, when they get past 6 months you start limiting or diminishing fat but never eliminating it. There are better foods than Friskiest but I can’t afford it right now and I’m a vegetarian and so raw is out. I also don’t know if cats….domesticated for 2 centuries at least? Can process raw.

    #852378
    Stephanie
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    Yuri sounds like alot of fun. Was he an outside cat? ???? dabird is the only toy that Smudge really likes. I try to imitate prey with it but it breaks too easy. As for food Smudge doesn’t like salmon either but loves tuna. He’ll tolerate whitefish. He used to eat whiskas but I stopped feeding it to him because he used to get really wild after eating it. Maybe the sugar in it. I don’t know. We switched to animonda kitten and now he’s fine. He gets 3 small portions of wet food a day and dry food is available for him. I tried give him a large portion of food and he ate so fast he threw it up. He’s not crazy about dry food. He loves wet. I’ve read that cats should eat raw meat but I don’t know. I’d be worried about him getting sick. Jackson galaxy recommends it.

    #852383
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi Stephanie,

    Cats eat raw meat if they’re in the wild. There are so many choices today on cat food that fetching raw meat is not necessary. Some TDKers swear by fresh raw meat. For one thing, it’s expensive.

    My LilBit loves feather bird toys but, he too would tear up the feathers and that was it. I started going to a hobby shop and buying a bunch of soft, fluffy feathers for him. He loves them.

    I hope you found a vet. willing to neuter Smudge now. Have you thought about getting him a cat tree? When he’s in a mood put him on it so he’ll scratch that instead of you.

    Purrsonally, I don’t recommend any drugs for kits.

    #852388
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    No Stephanie, not an outside cat ever. Windows isn’t sold here only the cat milk which does indeed have sugar. A cat with sugar will crave more food. Like a drug addict who takes drugs and gets the? What we call munchies. Eat and eat and eat. I gave Yuri yogurt but must now lay off because it’s just too much. The real problem is something in the mariners catch causing neurological symptoms. No clue. Some additive that’s not in his other food. Probiotics wouldn’t do that but? He’ll allow salmon with chicken or chicken tuna so there are options. I wouldn’t give smudge (he looks German by the way. Very interesting but? They say your pet comes to resemble you or in this case? The country they’re in) too much tuna. Could cause him problems. I’d give him more whitefish. Incidentally? Whitefish goes with Sunday bagels and lox in this country although I never had it. I just had the lox. Smudge also needs a goodly amount of meat and chicken and turkey. Some say rabbit which I have the thought of but cats sre carnivores so they need a lot of meat. Is he drinking enough water?

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