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    poochi7
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    hi all – i would love to get some advice/suggestions on how to solve a problem i have with the newest addition to my “animal kingdom”. i have 2 adult female cats,”busy” and “bebe” who are close to 4 years old, littermates. i recently adopted a female cat, about 2 years old. i named her “snowy” – she was a rescue and living at my vets office, i felt so bad for her, living out her life in a cage. i brought her home two weeks ago today. i haven’t seen her since. i know she is in the rafters of the ceiling in my basement, because ceiling tiles are down and my two cats often stare at the ceiling and one makes trips up to the rafters. she is eating, i can tell by the contents of the food bowl. my kitties are iams dry girls. i do have 7 doggies, and they can raise a barking ruckus at various times of the day but one of the reasons i thought this kitty would get along in my house was that she was housed in the same room with various barking dogs during her stay at the vets, and she seemed to take it in stride. any ideas on how i can convince “snowy” to come down from the ceiling and become a full fledged member of my family. the dogs are housed on the first floor and rarely get to visit the basement. the kitties have the run of the rest of the house even the “bird room” on the second floor. my kitties both have gentle natures.

    #131571
    Sylmiafelixsmama
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    You might want to confine her to one room with food, water and a litter box till she gets use to the house. Of course you need to find her.

    #131572
    caroline
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    Confining her to one small room is a good idea. Perhaps a small bedroom or bathroom until she gets used to the sounds and scents of her new home. Can you get near her if you go to the basement alone? Maybe try to spend time with her talking to her softly will encourage her to come to you. Please keep us posted about little Snowy!

    #131573
    poochi7
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    that’s for sure. i am hoping someone has a suggestion as to how to lure her out from the ceiling. i’ve been told by a few local cat people that she eventually will appear. i’m just impatient. i want her to know that she is safe and will be loved and not to be frightened.

    #131574

    Food is a good lure. You mentioned on the night shift that you set some tuna up on the rafter. Try setting in lower to force her to come out of the rafters to eat it.

    You don’t really know what her experience has been up to now, except for the weeks or months she spent at the vet’s office in a cage. She needs to have enough positive interactions with you to know you are safe. It’s not a reflection on you but on her experiences before you offered her a home. Hang in there!

    #131575
    poochi7
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    that’s something i just thought of too. one of the vet techs seemed to have known snowy before she was rescued. she apparently had several litters of kittens in her days on the streets and who knows how many bad experiences. and now she has to get used to still another experience, with two resident cats and a bunch of barking canine children. poor baby. i am sure i would be hiding also, if i went through everything she has probably gone through in her young life. i have to learn to be patient.

    #131576
    AnnF
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    Maybe if you can record your voice talking gently to her and play it during the day when you’re not there, it would be another way to get her used to the sound of it. I’m guessing that right now she’s probably very uncertain of what’s going to happen next and so is hiding from potential predators and dangers. The more that she gets used to you and to the other cats (and the sound of these different dogs) in a context where nothing bad happens to her, the faster she’ll be to fully joining the family.

    You could also try to move in as catlike a fashion as possible and spend a lot of time on the floor just doing your thing, interacting with the other cats and giving them a lot of attention and loving so she sees that you’re an honorary cat. 🙂 Direct eye contact and trying too hard to see her could make you look like a potential danger.

    I’d lean a bit against confining her to a different room since probably the rafters feel safe–she can observe and hide without being seen or accessible–and moving her to a different place could be another minor trauma. In a bathroom with fewer hiding places, she might not feel as protected. But that’s just my take!

    #131577
    anncetera2
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    Poochi7, you’ve already gotten some very good advice. The trick will be to get Snowy down and into a smaller, confined area to give you both the time to develop a better relationship of trust.

    If she was stray or spent a lot of time on the streets, I’m not at all surprised that she’s hiding, full-time, in your house full of barking dogs. Stop and think what barking dogs are, to an outdoor stray… they’re excited, dangerous, and something to GET AWAY FROM! So Snowy’s trying to get away, but she can’t. So she’s just hiding as hard as she can, somewhere the dogs can’t get to her. From her point of view, she’s doing exactly what’s helped her survive outdoors.

    Have you taken any steps to train your dogs to bark less? I know when one dog barks, it can set the rest of them off… but having them bark less will probably help your new cat adjust better.

    In addition, if you can help ensure that the basement is somewhere the dogs don’t go, that will give her an area where she will feel safer. Do you spend much time in the basement? Do your cats spend much time in the basement?

    In the rest of the house, do you have cat furniture or areas where the cats can get up high, away from the dogs? Her very first instinct, with the dogs, for a very long time will be to get away from them – even after you spend time with her in an enclosed room, to develop a relationship of trust.

    When she’s confined to that room, after a few days or weeks, you might be able to bring in your most cat-safe dog (the one meekest, oldest, and/or most patient with cats, and least likely to snap back if the cat takes a swipe at its snout), to meet Snowy. However, keep in mind that your dog will need to be on a very short lead, and Snowy will probably not react well. Patience and repetition will be needed, in large supply.

    (As much routine and predictable behavior as possible is needed right now, for Snowy to understand her new family.)

    Is Snowy deaf? What color are her eyes? If she is deaf, that could add an additional layer of work to develop trust. (Even if she’s deaf, she can certainly pick up the vibrations in the air, when the dogs bark.)

    Last, if it turns out that she’s not adjusting well to the rest of your family within 4-6 months, what will you do?

    #131578
    SharoninAustell46
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    poochi7, my hubby recommends removing your ceiling tiles ((we’re assuming you have a suspended ceiling in the basement) to prevent losing any more tiles and to retrieve your kitty. That way you can keep an eye on where she is, he says, and maybe leave one up to give her a hideaway. I think it is wonderful of you to give her a home instead of a cage. anncetera is right about patience. We adopted a feral from our vet last April and she is just now reaching a point where she will sit close to us and let us touch her and that isn’t a constant. I can’t wait to hear a happy ending to this story.

    #131579
    poochi7
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    good morning everyone

    thank you all so much for all the good advice. i know i need to have more patience with this situation. i have been doing some of the suggestions already since she came to live with us. my two older cats have free run of the house, basement included. they are excluded from the first floor area mainly because of the dogs. my dogs are not cat aggressive but they are very exhuberant and i know that is a frightening experience for nearly all cats. i am very aware of that and i make sure i monitor any interactions between them. the dogs do not have free access to the basement, but they generally get down there once a day for a few minutes until i can round em up and bring them back upstairs. as far as training them not to bark, i think that is not really possible with my group. it’s their way of getting my attention and making their opinions heard! i know they are extremely spoiled but they are all too cute and smart for me to become a disciplinarian now. i will keep trying with snowy and keep you all posted as to the happenings at my house.

    #131580
    miu
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    Good Luck to you, poochi7 and Snowy. Happy New Years!

    #131581
    Karenopa
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    Not knowing the experiences prior to coming to live with the vet AND the possibility that she hadn’t truly adapted to the dogs while there, maybe makes her feel in her new environment, more unsure than we can perceive. Different dog smells, different people smells, new cat smells. All overwhelming to say the least. Routine and patience with my 4 feral kittens seemed to work out over a period of 7 or 8 mos. Nothing worked out overnight but with love and perserverance we all won in the end. What if you removed just a few of the ceiling tiles every couple of days? My husband suggests that when all else fails…SALMON…should help speed up the process. My instincts say be cautious where the dogs are concerned..One mishap could undo much positive progress. God Bless you for your kindness and generous spirit.

    #131582
    poochi7
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    karenopa

    thank you so much. i will try the salmon. it’s true, the Good Lord only knows what this little one may have gone through in her young life. and yes, i agree about caution with my doggies. even though they are little love bunnies, they have very different ways of expressing theselves than kittie cats do. i would always be extremely cautious when there is any chance of interaction. again, i feel so lucky to have met all you wonderful folks.

    #131583
    caroline
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    poochi7 keep us posted.. it sounds like you have a great little furry family!

    #131584
    poochi7
    Participant

    hi everyone – just to bring you all up todate. i had my very first sighting of snowy this evening after over two weeks since coming to live with me. she is living up in the rafters of the basement ceiling and came out to where i could see her when i was putting fresh food and water up there. she only stayed a 1/2 a minute but we did make eye contact and she looks ok and as beautiful as ever. did my heart good to see her to say the least. it’s possible that my two resident cats who are very gentle natured have not been as nice to her as i thought they would be. this maybe why she is hiding so long. i just had to share this news, everyone on tdk has been so good with advice and encouragement, i thank you all again. will keep you posted as to how things progress. bobby

    #131585
    Tigerlilly
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    Any chance that you could get a have a hart trap with some very smelly tuna inside to catch this kitty? Because I agree with all of the other helpful suggestions that the best thing is to have Snowy confined to one room and slowly introduce het to her new world.

    We took in a feral some years back that appeared to be friendly but when taken into the house did the exact same thing, hiding for two weeks within the basement walls. The have a hart capture worked!

    Good luck and great job being patient with Snowy, she will come around…

    #131586
    AnnF
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    What good news that she’s letting you see her! It looks like she’s gotten curious about you and isn’t as afraid. Seems like a real turn in the road here.

    #131587
    Emma
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    If it is any consolation, all cats come around at last to loving people. A friend of mine adopted an abused feral cat that was very fearful. It took two (TWO) solid years, but in the end, that cat thought my friend was his mommy and her husband was his daddy. Bearclaw turned out to be a loving and affectionate baby, but because of his past it took a while.

    My Ruggles was a feral, abandoned in a winter field and starving to death when he was finally rescued. After the first couple of months that he lived with me, he became very loving and affectionate. However, it took him a full 18 months to climb into my lap.

    Some cats have a lot to get over. Just make the house as quiet as possible, and let her come down to you on her terms, and she will be fine.

    As I type this, Ruggles is sound asleep on his back on my bed, snoring softly, and making strange noises in his sleep. I think he must still be dreaming of his rough kittenhood. When I leaned over to scratch his belly, he woke up, blinked at me, purred loudly, and fell back to sleep.

    Just takes some loving, honey, and some quiet. You might ban the dogs from the basement and see what happens. They have to stay away from your new cat for her to get her bearings and decide that she likes living with you. It’s no fun to do this to your sweet doggies, but Snowy is the new, scared little girl in your house and she needs some quiet time. She deserves that.

    You’re going to have to be the disciplinarian with your dogs — they are pack animals and they will welcome the presence of authority, or they will vote themselves as the Runners of the House.

    Much love, and keep us in the loop.

    Auntie Emma

    #131588
    poochi7
    Participant

    hi auntie emma and all my other friends on tdk

    it is very early in the morning on wednesday and i have some very good news to report. last evening as i was getting ready to leave the house, i put fresh food and water for snowy up on the basement rafters and a few minutes later i saw her little face looking down at me from another area of the basement where ceiling tiles were missing. i spoke gently to her and after a few minutes she ventued down from her high perch. i opened more food, fancy feast, shrimp with something else and offered it to her. she came over and started to eat. within a few minutes she approached me with head bonks and purring. she allowed me to scritch her back and tail. then on to her head and neck, with continuous purring. unbelievable! while i was giving her all this attention, my cat busy, was observing all the interaction. i could tell she was not happy in my sharing attention with snowy. her sister bebe was not in the basement at the time, so i don’t know how she would have reacted had she been there too. busy was definately standoffish with me, she wouldn’t even look at me while i called her name and told her how beautiful she was and that i loved her very much. completly ignored me. i felt so badly for her but i feel she will eventually accept the presence of snowy in the house. the doggies do make a racket at times and i do my best to keep them out of the basement as much as i can, but invariably they manage to get down there atleast once or twice a day, but only for a matter of minutes. it’s just the way my house is configured, i am not handy with home repairs and the like, so certain features of the house leave a bit to be desired. anyway, i thought i should share this giant step forward for snowy with all of you on tdk, you have all been wonderful with advice and support, i am very grateful to everone. i will let you know, how things progress. peace. bobby

    #131589

    This is wonderful news, Bobby. I am so happy for you and Snowy. Way to hang in there and let her approach you at her own pace!

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