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  • #831532
    Holly
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    Hello, I recently took in an abandoned kitten. She has been with us for a week tomorrow. We took her to the vet on the first day that we had her. He estimated her at two weeks old and said she was likely a little premie or had been neglected by mom. She was pretty underweight and suffering from a uri and an eye infection. We got those things treated, finally got her taking a bottle and after three days without one, finally had a bowel movement. She seems to be thriving. She is getting more curious, purring, cuddling and our routine is getting easier. My question is about feeding though. My little girl is ALWAYS hungry for more, more, more after she eats the recommended amount. She weighs about 6.5oz now, so her daily feed amount should be about 50cc. She wants about 15cc per feed to be happy tho. She will cry and walk around pitifully until she gets that last little bit. Problem is, tonight when she woke me for her 11:30pm feeding,there was diarrhea in her nest. It was normal colored but it was there. I know over feeding can cause this, but I am at a loss for how to comfort her when she is still hungry! I have never done this before so everything is new. I ravenously read article after article online, but there is so much conflicting information. I soooo want this angel baby to make it. I need any advice you might have. And also am wondering if pedialite is really okay to help with the possible dehydration from the diarrhea. And it is about 1:45am my time right now. Will I be okay to wait until morning to go buy some or should go now? She did eat normally for her last feed. Thanks so much–Holly

    #831546
    jcat
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    Holly, I know it’s hard, there is so much conflicting information out there and it’s so hard to know what to do for the best. I think the first thing I want to say is, go with your gut. Your kitten is there in front of you, you have her best interests at heart, trust yourself. Every kitten is different and feeding guides are just that — an averaged-out guideline. If your kitten has been underweight and neglected by mum or she is a premie then I would give her that last bit of formula. If she were still with her mum, she would be feeding on demand, so I tend to think you can’t really overfeed a wee unweaned kitten who’s still shouting for food and obviously hungry.
    Second thing is the diarrhea may not be due to overfeeding, it could well be due to parasites which she almost certainly has (and is too little to treat for right now).
    Third thing is, if she is still taking formula, then she will not become dehydrated and will not need Pedialyte. (Though I will give you the recipe for home-made Pedialyte so that you have it on hand if you feel you need it.) Dehydration is a major problem with diarrhea when kitten stops taking in fluids and food. Yours is still eating, and seems alert and curious. If she’s still taking in fluids normally, then she won’t become dehydrated.
    The time to worry is if and when kitten stops eating and drinking and becomes listless, lethargic or uninterested in what is going on around her. Those are the danger signs to get her to the vet asap. Curious and hungry are GOOD things!
    Best of luck!

    #831547
    jcat
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    The tent test is to test for dehydration:

    Tent test: pick up a good pinch of kitten’s skin at the neck and let go.If it snaps back immediately, she’s hydrated okay. If it takes a little time to go back down, or, worse, it stays up in a ‘tent’ shape, she needs fluids, such as pedialyte (from the supermarket, children’s aisle) or home-made pedialyte below.

    Note, in the United Kingdom, pedialyte is called Dioralyte. Also known as rehydration salts.

    Home-made pedialyte:

    Pedialyte formula (from World Health Organization)…no preservatives so short life-span

    * 1 cup water (boiled then cooled)

    * 2 tsp sugar

    * 1/8 tsp salt

    * 1/8 tsp baking soda

    * (this Pedialyte formula gives needed electrolytes & some sugar for energy)

    Combine all ingredients and warm slightly.

    Make new after 24 hours.

    #831548
    Holly
    Participant

    Thank you!! I feel much better! I have worried myself sick for the last week over every little thing. This was just the newest thing to obsess over. I’m grateful for the help! Can’t promise I won’t have more questions later:)

    #831551
    jcat
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    Questions always welcome, we will do our best! Fire away! And welcome to TDK!

    #831586
    Buttons
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    Brilliant advice as usual from JCat 🙂
    You can also give every second feed with fresh goats milk .. It’s great to settle an upset stomach . Some people tend to just feed kittens on Goats milk as an alternate for KRM.. It’s got good bacteria which helps build up the gut flora in the kittens digestive system and she will be lacking that seen as she has no mothers milk.. Parasites are a given and you can get suitable worming medication from your vet when she reaches 4 weeks old ..

    If you want to give her immune system a boost also you can add L-lysine to her formula/ goats milk even at this young age.. It’s also great for weight gain and improves cats coats too but more importantly it helps to control the feline herpes virus that’s normally the cause of all URI’s in cats under a year old… It’s very safe to use and I have used it in very young kittens.. I normally would give 500mg daily to a kitten of 4 weeks of age for a kitten under 4 weeks I would add 250mg once a day and when they get past 6 weeks of age you can add 500mg twice daily especially if her eyes flare up again and this is VERY common with feline herpes URI infections you clear them and then a few weeks later they are back again.. The vet will sometimes have to perscibed antibiotics if the eye becomes infected ( green discharge) but if you control the eye flare ups (swelling clear discharge and squinting are clear signs of a flare up) then the eye hopefully won’t get to the stage of an infection.. And prescribing antibiotics to a young kitten will not only kill bad bacteria but it will kill off the little good bacteria she has in her gut so this could very well be the cause of the diarrhea too.. So goats milk would really help replenish the loss of good bacteria and in turn increase her nutrient absorbtion.. Goats milk is also rich in L-lysine ..

    #831687
    Holly
    Participant

    Thank you!! I will try the l-lysine. She seems to be doing well. She just REALLY likes her food, lol! I read somewhere (before I cut myself off from reading too much internet info) that you can start mixing a bit of plain rice cereal with formula and giving it, in addition to bottle feeds, at about three weeks. Any thoughts on this? I’m hoping it might be more filling for her. I don’t want to rush it though. Not being totally sure of her age is tough. She’s just SO small!

    #831689
    Holly
    Participant

    And, on the goats milk…is the condensed any better than regular goats milk from the deli section?

    #831694
    Kittyzee
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    Holly, I have used the cereal in the bottle to fill them up and make it last a little longer between feedings. You can also mash up a little wet food and give it to her in the bottle to do the same thing. And it helps get her used to the taste of food. You may have to widen the nipple hole though, so she doesn’t turn her head inside out trying to suck the thicker formula out. Just make sure she doesn’t aspirate it into her lungs, you want her to EAT it not BREATHE it. No difference between the condensed and fresh, although maybe it’s cheaper. I liked it because it was so convenient and I could buy a couple of cans and have them to mix whenever I needed them. 😉

    #831745
    Holly
    Participant

    I’m back again! We have still been doing well, still eating, still playing…shes been a little restless today though…not sleeping as long etc. I chalked it up to the fact that she is getting older day by day and just may not sleep as long. I don’t know if thats even correct. I started mixing a bit of the rice cereal in with her formula and she seemed to enjoy it. When I fed her a few minutes ago she ate ok (slightly less than normal), but when I stimulated her following the poop there was blood. I am freaking out now!! She has been doing so well!! Is there anything that I can do for her before morning? I know my vet will get me in asap, but Im worried now. Im sorry Im posting SO much….I am totally in love with this baby girl though. I have so many pets and I adore them all, but she is such a sweetheart.

    #831754
    jcat
    Participant

    Don’t panic, Holly, and please don’t apologise for asking questions, we LOVE kitty mamas who keep us up to date with every poop, lol, we have even been known to do the happy poop dance when it is all going well. As usual, you have excellent advice from Buttons and KZ above. Try not to panic about the blood, I am picking it will be due to her parasites — icky worms (she’s bound to have ’em!) — especially if it was just a tiny amount. But it never hurts to get that sort of thing checked out, especially if she has been acting a little restless and I’m sure the vet will be impressed with her progress. Remember, the warning signs are when she stops eating and when she becomes uninterested in the world around her, listless and lethargic. If those two things aren’t happening, try not to worry too much (though I know it comes with the territory). Let us know how it goes at the vet and whether the verdict is those yucky worms.

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