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  • #46939

    Gigi1182
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    I looked at the link about “scoop on poop” and it doesn’t say anything about GREEN stool. Mollie is almost 4 weeks old, I had her on powdered GNC Kitten Milk replacer (basically podwered KMR, its the PetSmart brand)… she became constipated and didn’t poop for 6 days. I put her back on liquid canned formula and spent HOURS yesterday (poor thing..) stimulating her little butt over the kitchen sink and rubbing her tummy. Finally I managed to get out a lot of big poops- they were the consistency of wet play-dough.. kinda clay-like… and they were a dark avocado green color. I’ve stimulated her like this 3 times @ an hour each over the last 12 hours and finally put about 1/8 teaspoon of olive oil up her butt with a syringe in hopes it could help things move along. Her tummy is finally squishy again and she has been a happily purring kitten the entire time. Last night she wasn’t as excited about her bottle and only ate 15ml at a time (up until this point I had her pigging out on 30ml each feeding). Today when I finished pooping her, she went straight to her saucer and started drinking the formula/wet food mix (it’s like 90% formula, 10% wet right now) because I’m trying to wean her. She also had some sips from her water bowl. (Weaning’s another question I have in a sec)…

    So should I be too concerned that her poop is green like this? She seems fine otherwise, and I’m keeping an eye on her… I’m hoping I don’t have to continue to stimulate her like this much longer and she can go on her own…

    Also- weaning. She has a tendency to stick her whole face in the shallow saucer and ends up getting milk in her nose, so she sits there sneezing it off and is then turned off to the food. How can I get her to learn to lap? I have another 7 year old cat at home, but the older kitty wants nothing to do with her. πŸ™

    #682737

    Marnet
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    First, bless you for all your dedicated efforts caring for Mollie. You sound like a patient angel.

    To answer your question, constipated stools often are green in color, including in humans. It is caused by a bile agent, biliverdin. When constipated, stool ends up with more of this bile agent concentrated in it than usual, hence turning the stool green.

    Once Mollie is back to having bowel movements of normal regularity and consistency of stool texture if there remains any ongoing odd discoloration you might do well to check with your vet. But as long as the stool was green only when constipated it is most likely from a build up of the biliverdin bile product.

    As to the lapping from the saucer question, that I do not know but hopefully other members familiar with raising and fostering small kittens may be able to help. Frankly, four weeks is awfully young to be weaning a kitten. Normally, mother cats don’t wean their kittens until a minimum of 6 to 8 weeks and often as late as 10 to 12 weeks for being fully weaned. At four weeks, it might be best to still be bottle feeding.

    #682738

    Gigi1182
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    I’m reading a lot of mixed opinions on weaning. Many sites say 3-4 weeks is ok to start, others say 4-5 weeks… then there’s the litterbox… again some sites say 3-4, 4-6.. it’s so confusing. I’ve been trying to keep her mostly on the bottle but she’s fighting me with it more and more. She seems to like drinking from the saucer when she doesn’t get her nose in it. lol As of now I feed her every 6 hours- Morning and Evening feedings are 15ml in the bottle and 15ml formula mixed with a small amount of wet food in the saucer. The other 2 feedings are 30ml bottle only. But like I said- she’s starting to fight me on the bottle. It’s frustrating… πŸ™

    #682739

    Marnet
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    Ginger, I don’t know much about weaning kittens from bottles, so I’ll have to defer that issue to others who know more about it. If you haven’t already, go to the topic “Sunday cafe and we are still celebrating Dee’s birthday” and post a request there that those experienced with weaning and litter tray training kittens please read this thread and be sure to give them the title of the thread as “Green constipated poop? Help?” so they know where to come to read your questions.

    #682740

    Gigi1182
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    Thanks! πŸ™‚

    #682741

    Marnet
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    #682742

    SoxsMom
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    Deuter is my avitar cat. I have had him since he was 10 days old. I fed him from a kitten bottle until he was about 6 1/2 weeks and then started giving him KMR in a dish. He wasn’t fully weaned until he was 8-9 weeks old. Kittens do not always need to poop everyday. 6 days is a long time. Extra water helps with that problem as well. I do not think I would give the kitten an olive oil enima without a vet check.

    Welcome to TDK and may you and Mollie have many happy and healthy years together!

    #682743

    SoxsMom
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    #682744

    Dee
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    Ginger, I am so sorry…I am not familiar with weaning kittens from bottles, either. I know that a few people on this site are familiar with that, though. They will help you as soon as they see this thread. Bless you for taking care of this adorable little girl.

    #682745

    Gigi1182
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    Thanks guys! I have another thread on here that’s a little more detailed to the pooping problem.. it’s called “Help! 4 week old kitten not pooping!” … kinda explains where I’ve been with her and this.

    I think I’ve read just about every kitten rearing website on the planet. It’s confusing because there are SOOOO many different opinions on when to wean, what to feed, how much to feed, and when to deal with the litterbox. I’m trying to just take averages of what they all say… here’s where I’m at:

    She has a litterbox available in her playpen. She digs in it, but doesn’t “go’ in it. It has the recycled paper litter pellets in it. She doesn’t eat them, just plays with them- but I stop her when I catch her doing that.

    She currently gets a 15-30ml bottle of water-diluted canned KMR formula, with some benefiber and a few drops of olive oil mixed in (hopefully to keep her from being constipated)and I try to get her to nibble on some wet food (that’s mixed with formula) every other feeding

    She eats every 6 hours

    I stimulate her to go potty before and after every feeding

    I think I’m doing everything right? It’s just scary with a new baby. I’ve never raised one this young…

    #682746

    SoxsMom
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    You should put her eliminations in the litter to teach her this is where that belongs, that helps her understand what the box is for. Why benefiber and olive oil? That is a lot of laxatives. Have you set up a first vet appointment? An active kitten is sign of a healthy kitten. You have an active kitten so I think you are doing fine.

    #682747

    Gigi1182
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    She went to the vet last week, on Monday- he said she was healthy and happy.. but she didn’t poop for 6 days after that. She was REALLY bound up… so I’m doing the laxatives only for today just to see if that helps get her moving along… I hope that’s ok? She seems to be doing really good! Tomorrow we’ll go back to regular formula/wet food without the olive oil- but I think I might keep a small amount of the benefiber in there just to be safe.

    #682748

    SoxsMom
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    I don’t think it will hurt her, but it is a lot of laxatives, and on top of an olive oil enima as well, that is a lot. Hopefully she is on the right track and will be fine now!

    #682749

    AZDEBRA 5/27 & crew
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    Welcome to TDK Ginger πŸ™‚ She might not like the litter you are using, kittens and cats can be like we are (or at least some of us are) with different types of toilet paper…if that makes sense. Might want to try maybe another litter type (but not clumping or was it clay that is bad for kittens, sigh) to see if she takes to one more than the other. Or try using Kitten Attract, just sprinkle it over the current litter type and it might encourage her to use that more.

    #682750

    Marnet
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    Do NOT use CLUMPING LITTER for kittens!!! They tend to sample eating things and clumping litter will literally clog up a kitten’s stomach and intestines, possibly killing them!

    The suggestion about placing some of her elimination from when you stimulate her into the litter so she smells it and gets the idea is a great suggestion. If you aren’t already, try stimulating her over the litter and leaving the pee and poop until the next time, so she gets the idea.

    It may be that she is still too young to manage elimination on her own and just needs a few more days or a week.

    #682751

    Gigi1182
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    I usually stimulate her over or in the litterbox anyway, but lately we’ve been having to stimulate her to poop with running warm water in the sink. She’s still not wanting to poop on her own- OR through normal stimulation. I’ve had to be a little more rigorous to get her moving along. Her bum might be sore though so I’m going to give her a couple days of normal stimulation to see what she does. She defniitely knows that she should dig in the litterbox, but she has yet to go on her own. It took my other kitten a while to learn and finally an older cat showed her. I’m hoping my older kitty does the same for Mollie.

    No, of course I’m not using clumping litter. I bought that recycled paper stuff- she loves it, I mean she plays in it all the time. lol… I am excited that she’s digging in it. I think soon she’ll get the hint.

    Today I’m a proud mommy! She’s 4 weeks old today, and has been FIGHTING me on the bottle. I thought she didn’t want to eat but… nope. She’s just insistent on growing up fast! That little piggy has been chowing down on wet kitten food (with very little formula in it) and is lapping up water now on her own! I am SO proud!!!! It just… happened!!

    Today is a good day. I’m hoping tomorrow she just decided to poop on her own. I put a teeeeeny tiny bit of hemorrhoid salve on her little hiney because it was looking irritated from all the stimulation we’ve been having to do. The ingredients said “mineral oil and petroleum jelly”, which is what I’ve read before is ok to put on their little bums if they’re irritated from over-stimulation. She seems to be feeling MUCH better. Her tummy is nice and squishy, and much smaller (definitely not bloated!) and she’s pigging out on her food. Happy kitten! YAY!

    #859325

    Art
    Participant

    I know this is an old post but I found it researching green poop for my newest charge (I foster feral kittens our group finds while doing TNR). Just wanted to chime in on the problem of getting a kitten to drink on their own for anyone else who might find this post. what has worked for me in the past and was suggested by a colleague is to put a small amount of water in a very flat saucer (or Tupperware lid or something like that) and to make sure to pour it in within the kitten’s presence so that it hears the sound of the water. I’ve also had success with using my finger to splash the water around a bit. They respond to the sound whether just curiosity or because of something just built into them I don’t know. but it usually helps.
    anyways, not a direct answer to your question (and I’m sure by now your kitty is way beyond having drinking problems) but I hope this might help someone else.

    edit: oh yeah, re the constipation, KMR (and I assume other milk replacer products) can cause constipation. In lieu of the enema idea, a more gentle approach is to water down the formula (3 parts water to 1 part KMR rather than 2 to 1) and if you feel it’s needed, I put in about 3-5 drops of vegi oil per 1 60ml bottle (PetAg size). I usually do the oil thing as a last resort. poor guys already got enough madness going on in their gut not to mention the weird-looking pink mommy-cat thing jiggling then and roughing up their privates. I also will only do one time and wait a couple days with normal stimulation. if nothing, I’d give another round of oil. does the trick πŸ™‚
    -Art

    • This reply was modified 3 months, 4 weeks ago by  Art.
    #859330

    Kittyzee
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    Thanks Art for the words of wisdom and tricks of the trade! It never hurts to post things that may help someone when they are in the midst of hand rearing. Some things work for some folks and kittens, others don’t, and we are always looking for ways to help these babies survive.

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