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  • #17383
    Catwoman
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    Hi All~

    Yesterday when 120 was sitting in front of me at the computer and blocking the screen (his normal morning spot) I was giving him some scritches and found an engorged tick on his neck. I lit and then blew out a match, held the hot end to the tick and then easily pulled him out, including his head and a piece of poor 120’s skin. After that, I examined 120 more closely and found fleas on his neck and head! There weren’t too many, so I gave him a bath. Then I checked Wolfie, who is indoor only, and he also has them! To his horror, into the bath for him too! I stopped at Pet Supermarket on the way home and bought flea shampoo, flea collars and a product called Bio Spot. It was $14.49 for three treatments applied to the back of the neck. I thought that maybe it would work like Revolution, which cost me over $75 a month when I used it with 7 cats. Well…used the Bio Spot and saw no difference except the cats all seem nervous and jumpy, the fleas that were directly in the treated area are dead but there are live ones inches away on the face; the place where I applied the product is a big greasy oil slick (the Revolution used to soak into the skin immediately) and the flea collars also seem to be doing nothing. So, I seem to have just blown about $60 when I will have to get the Revolution anyway. The collars are Scratchex brand and are supposed to kill fleas and ticks for 5 months. They were $4.49 each.

    #224705
    TheKnittingNinja
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    hey CW I posted on the thread chuck posted for you

    #224706
    Anonymous
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    CW………Also check out Drsfostersmith.com…A 4 pack of Advantage(purple) for $40.99, plus free shipping ’til June 3rd. Entirelypets.com has the same for $39.99 for the 4 treatments.Did not look up what their shipping chgs were.

    Advantage worked great for me, with a flea problem……..even the fleas in the carpeting were gone shortly after just one treatment on the kitties.

    #224707
    Buttercup
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    Hi,I posted over on the other thread CW.

    #224708

    See my post on the other thread, and GET THAT FLEA COLLAR OFF ASAP!

    #224709
    Catwoman
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    OK, took flea collars off and have bathed 120, Lucky, Jimmy the Weasel and Teensie. Still to go are Tristan and Wolfie. Boo did not get treated with the flea meds because he only comes home every couple of days and was not here last night.

    Jimmy and Lucky both had very red areas where I applied the Bio spot and Jimmy had lost all of his fur from the area. Teensie did not seem to have a reaction but I bathed him anyway. Lucky and Tristan are both lethargic. Wolfie seems fine. I noticed when I checked the packaging that I accidently bought 3 for under 5 pound cats and three for over 5 pounds. I guess the ones who got the “under 5 pound” dose did not receive as strong a dose and that’s why they are not ill.

    To add insult to injury, ALL of them still have live fleas! Now what do I do? How long before I can use Revolution to get rid of the fleas?

    #224710
    Emma
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    In 2005 we had an absolute nightmare infestation of fleas in the county. I had some work done on the house, and the workmen were tramping through the place from the back yard to the front yard for the entire day. Two days later, both cats were full of fleas. And Ruggles and Rotley are both indoor cats who NEVER go outside.

    The next day I got Advantage from my vet and applied it to the backs of their necks. The fleas dropped dead and I was combing them out of their coats.

    I had to reapply the stuff for two more applications, but since that time the fleas have been completely gone and never returned. It took two months and a lot of vacuuming and scrubbing, but we’ve been free of the little buggers for three years.

    Get the Advantage for cats stuff. It works. It takes time, but the results are immediate, and neither cat showed any side effects or reactions at all.

    #224711
    feral
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    CW…you might want to minimize the fleas that may jump off of them & into your carpet by sprinkling some flea killing carpet powder down. You’ll want to leave it on the carpet overnight tho to assure that it penetrates & kills all fleas that jump off them. Just a suggestion. Hope all your babies are okay from this. Sounds like some really nasty stuff.

    #224712
    anncetera2
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    Catwoman, you’re sure to get many different suggestions. I’m glad you caught your kitties in time! Bad reactions to flea products can kill cats, or cause permanent liver damage and/or brain damage.

    I’ve had best luck with food-grade diatomaceous earth, in terms of flea control. Dusty for a week or two, but definitely got rid of fleas forever. Completely non toxic and no resistance to the product; cheaper than many other ways of controlling fleas. Safe to apply to cat and household. You do NOT want swimming-pool grade, but only food grade or horticultural grade DE.

    More info at: http://www.care2.com/greenliving/all-around-non-toxic-flea-control.html

    To order, I’d look up fossil shell flour at dirtworks, or look elsewhere online for diatomaceous earth (food grade or horticultural grade), no other additives.

    #224713
    feral
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    anncetera…you’ve mentioned diatomaceous before here. Is it something you use both on the inside & outside of the house? I recall you saying you can put the food grade directly on the cats & it won’t hurt them. If you can,does it dry their skin out?

    #224714
    anncetera2
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    Susie, it can be a bit drying to the skin; you probably wouldn’t want to use it for more than a couple weeks on a cat that’s already got dry skin problems. But it also usually won’t make such a condition any worse.

    You can use it outdoors, too; the trick is, it becomes ineffective when wet. So if you sprinkle it throughout the yard, fine; but it would need to be reapplied after every rain. On my front porch, I use it on the welcome mat (where the cats like to lie) and in the cat beds, to help cut down on fleas. If I can get it on the cats, and if they’ll let me touch them, I pet them to work the powder down to the skin.

    Indoors, it’s really best used on floors, carpets, under baseboards, on any upholstered furniture such as a couch, cat bed, cat castle, and so forth. And on the cats themselves, of course. I don’t worry about applying on the cat’s head; I focus on the neck and rest of the body. The fleas crawl all over the cat, so eventually they’re going to wander through territory dusted with DE, and it’ll start to work.

    It requires 2 weeks to kill the flea life cycle. The house can look like it’s been lightly floured all over, but I tell ya what, I’ve seen such damage to cats from most toxin-based flea control products that I’ll gladly put up with a small bit of messiness rather than use toxic products on my cats.

    #224715
    anncetera2
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    Best part of all this is, DE is less expensive than any other effective method I’ve found.

    #224716
    feral
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    That’s why I prefer powdered products. I will sometimes sprinkle the carpetpoder on the rugs coming into the house & i’ll sprinkle the decks to insure not carrying the fleas in. We have sand all under this whole park & come summer time,if you’ve got cats that are even outdoors only you have to get smart fast about flea problems. I don’t like the chemical sprays you get in the stores & there’s no way I’m going to spray something in side that the cats walk on,then lick their feet & end up sick or dead from reaction. I early on experienced all the allergy systems mention in the above post.

    The tube flea meds (Advantage) I hear about all the time. Like anything else,there’s a risk factor. That’s why I won’t put the full dose ,even of the cheap stuff,on any of the cats. A few drops rather than the whole tube works as well. And sometimes I’ll just sprinkle a bunch of flea powder on a dry cloth & rub doen the belly & legs & all of the cats outside & it really does work well. I do worry about the bigger yuck bugs like ticks tho.

    I’ll have to check into the stuff your talking about. Now if I could only learn how to pronounce it. lol

    #224717
    anncetera2
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    Hi, Susie! I helped my brother Steve when his cats almost died from flea products; and I nearly lost one of my own, one year, from similar products, used exactly according to instructions. I won’t use the over-the-counter stuff at all, period. The pronunciation is a mouthful the first few times!! I pronounce it dye-uh-toe-may-shuss earth.

    #224718
    Catwoman
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    I don’t know if I can use something that will leave a dust all over the house. First, I have quite a large house (not fancy, just big) and it would be a huge mess to clean up. Second, I had pneumonia a year ago and ever since I have something called Reactive Airway–my lungs fill with fluid or close up at the slightest provocation. I have to wear a mask when scooping the litter, and I have a rescue inhaler.

    #224719
    anncetera2
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    CW, with your lung problems, you might very well be unable to use DE to treat your house. However, you could still use it to treat your cats directly. In your case, you would definitely want someone else to apply the DE to your cats, unless you can wear a respirator with the right-size filters for the job. Perhaps you know a groomer who would do the job for you, if you explained what was needed? Applying DE to pets is supposed to be done in such a way as to raise as little dust as possible (since it’s not good for people or pets to breathe it). I wear latex gloves and gently massage the cat to get the powder to the skin surface.

    If you’re unable to use something like DE, I’d definitely check with several different veterinarians about the best methods of flea control that pose the least amount of risk to your cats, your furnishings, and your own lungs. I’d especially be sure to find out more about the active ingredients, and overall toxin load to your cats. Otherwise, it can be far too easy to inadvertently harm cats in the effort to control fleas.

    Good luck!

    #224720
    Cato1730
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    Cato is hypersensitive to fleas. He overgrooms and makes himself bloody, so I have to keep the fleas to zero. I have a whole arsenal of chemicals I use. I will recommend one. Program, it is a six-month injectable. It makes it impossible for fleas to reproduce. It has made my life and Cato’s much easier. I do not like using chemicals with animals at all. And, I try to put off using Advantage, Capstar and other chemical-type flea remedies, but these are the only things that work with him. Here is a link:

    http://www.program.novartis.us/cat/en/faq_injectable.shtml

    Happy scratching 🙂 Elizabeth

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