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  • #862403

    Sue F
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    I have been taking care of 3 kittens that were abandoned by their mom shortly after birth. They got to me about 8 hours after being born. (I’ve hand raised many litters in the past.)

    After looking best formula/food to help them thrive I went with feeding raw goats milk. Everyone was doing great til they were 4 days old and then one little boy went lethargic and a few hours later he was gone, yesterday another little boy was doing great, went lethargic at 7pm and was gone by 1:30am.

    After the first boy started to fade, I switched over to a Goop recipe I found on this site.

    The last one, a little girl had trouble pooping. Watched the triangle video and got her to poop 3 times since last night. It’s like little pebbles, so I have added mineral oil to her bottle.

    I called my vet this morning to see if I should bring the remaining kitten in preemptively. In telling the girl what I had been doing, she told me I was to blame for the kittens dying because of the goats milk, that I needed to be feeding only KRM (KMR)

    I started bawling (you guys get it …. on day 6 now of up every 2 hours) and told her she was very offensive and hung up on her.

    Really I am venting here. After trying so hard with these babies, holding the two that passed for hours so they wouldn’t be alone …. now to hear someone at my vets office say it was my fault was devastating. I know it is not true…but I will never unhear that and my guilt in could I have done more will love that.

    Thanks for listening… I needed to get that out

    #862405

    Kittyzee
    Participant

    Sue, I am so sorry for the loss of your kittens…and so sorry that you had to deal with an idiot who obviously knows nothing about raising kittens. I have raised my last two cats on goat’s milk…and their ages are 3 and 5 months. Most people know nothing about actually raising kittens (even vets and their staff) except what they have read. The emotions and the sleeplessness and worry and concern that you are doing everything right weighs so heavy on you, that when you do get a break…you can’t sleep!!

    We are here for you, I understand your hurt and sadness (and anger) at the unfeeling a$$hole that you had the misfortune of talking to. And if that is the only vet you have access to, the vet him or herself would be hearing about it. 😡

    #862409

    katzenjammer
    Participant

    I too am so sorry for your loss and what you are going through.

    On a practical note, if you have had good experiences with your vet and trust him/her, I would ask to speak with them directly and explain what happened when you called. They do need to know and few people ever do this sort of follow-up.

    If you decide to go with a new vet perhaps you might ask outright if they have experience with newborn kittens.

    I do hope that you can save the 4th kitty. And as KZ said, we understand and are here for you. KJ

    • This reply was modified 2 months, 1 week ago by  katzenjammer.
    #862415

    Sue F
    Participant

    Thank You Both. I appreciate the kind words. We moved to the area just a short time ago, so I’ve only used them once a couple of months ago when one of the dogs was sick.

    When I am no longer sleep deprived I am going to write up a formal response to what she did and mail it to the owner/vet. It’s kind of a country vet office, so the receptionist very well may be related.

    I’ve got my fingers crossed for this little girl. Today, one minute I think she is fine, then the next not. Weirdly she is not meowing anymore. Her mouth opens but 80% of the time no sound come out. That was what scared me this morning and prompted me to call to see about getting her seen.

    Another vets office I called said flat out that kittens this age are not usually save able. They asked a lot of questions about what I was doing and said there was nothing more to be done. So I”m holding her a lot and doing a whole lot of asking for her to be healthy and stay here with me!!!

    #862421

    Kittyzee
    Participant

    Sue, it was also wrong of the other vets office to say these kittens aren’t saveable. I am going to post some links for you, even though you have raised kittens in the past (like I have) I always like to have these links at hand to refer to if there’s a question I need answered. As far as the goat’s milk, make sure it’s pasteurized–and if you are getting it straight from the goat, you can pasteurize it yourself…just Google pasteurizing goat’s milk. You only have to heat it for a short while to make it pasteurized. Otherwise, the powdered, the concentrate (can be found in the baking section of the grocery) and the regular goat’s milk can be found in the refrigerated section of the grocery.

    If she is getting lethargic, make sure you have some kind of sugar water, honey, or syrup on hand to rub on her gums or tongue to raise her sugar level. Then try and feed if she perks up. Make sure she is getting milk by checking the nipple–sometimes the nipples close up or collapse when the kittens latch.

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    #862426

    Sue F
    Participant

    I just woke her upper her feeding and she is acting like she is having neurological problems. She looks like the shaky tumbling of an animal with hydrocephalus. I think this is the end. She’s gone down by 5 grams in weight, could be due to the shaking on the scale but i doubt it. she’s hungry but can’t eat.

    I am waiting for a call back from an er vet now

    #862431

    Kittyzee
    Participant

    I hope it’s not hydrocephalus, but sometimes these kittens pull through and even though some are special needs cats, they make wonderful pets. Keep us posted on what you find out…this has certainly been a journey for you and your determination to see this through. Many blessings to you for your compassion and love….the world needs more people like you.

    #862445

    Sue F
    Participant

    Here is the daily update …. After talking with the emergency Vet and a good friend last night who was not sleep deprived I came to the heartbreaking decision to just let her go and let her little body have a break. So I held her until 4am,finally I couldn’t stay awake any longer so I put her box on it’s side and laid down on the floor with my hand on her. Woke up at 6am to her still crawling around. I held her again, said good bye, again and I had to go to bed. Woke up after 8 am and was thinking I just do not want to see her and deal with this. Right about then was when I heard her start meowing.

    I called a new vet and brought her in. They had her for 3 hours, let me go back and be with her the whole time. They warmed her up (she got cold the 5 minutes in their lobby with the ac) made a slurry for her to eat, sent one of their jr techs to the store to get karo syrup for her. She can no longer use the nipple on the bottle, but bypassing the nipple and using tubes she can eat and is asking for food.

    The vet doesn’t expect much. He says her heart is a little weak. The vet tech said look her heartbeat is still over 200 a minute which is fine, she is breathing, she is trying to crawl, she keeps purring and knitting. This is NOT a kitten that is actively trying to die.

    Now I have to feed her the food slurry for the protein, the milk that has karo, mineral oil and vitamins in it every 1.5 hours. The rest is up to her.

    As for the wobbles, the vet really didn’t address it. He thinks maybe it is the low blood sugar and has no idea if it will stay or go away.

    All I know is that Ms Daisy is my kitty for the rest of her life, be it a few hours or many years!!!

    #862446

    katzenjammer
    Participant

    Prayers that Ms Daisy makes it. And if this is not to be, know that you went to the farthest extent possible for her. And that whatever time she had here it was enveloped in love.

    #862455

    pussigato
    Participant

    Miss Daisy let you know that you’re her meowmy furever too! Thanks for giving her every little bit of yourself, Sue. My gang sends heaps of white light to both of you.

    #862458

    Kittyzee
    Participant

    Sue, your post made my heart leap with joy!! I have had kittens that were so near death that I was afraid to walk away from them, only to find them meowing for me when I would re enter the room!! One of them will be 12 in September!! I tend to think the wobbliness is probably low sugar related, and as long as you can get nutrition into her, do it any way possible. Little Miss Daisy is a fighter and you have been the BEST for her for however long that may be!!

    #862476

    Sue F
    Participant

    I lost Daisy this morning 🙁 She was doing great yesterday afternoon and all night. Early this morning the weight loss and laying on her side started. I tried everything I could think of but she just couldn’t stay here any longer.

    Heart broken, doesn’t even cover it.

    Thank You everyone for you kindness over the past few days. It has been much appreciated.
    Sue

    #862477

    katzenjammer
    Participant

    Anything that I will say feels hollow. 🙁 But I am so very sorry that Daisy left you. Run and play in the Meadow little kitty grrl!

    #862478

    Kittyzee
    Participant

    Oh Sue, I am so very sorry. I know that heartbroken doesn’t even begin to touch on the depth of the feeling you have for little Daisy. I have always wondered how someone so small can leave such a huge hole in my life. The loss seems almost unbearable. Sweet Daisy, sleep sweetly and awake whole and new knowing your Meowmy loves you….

    #862482

    pussigato
    Participant

    In her short time here Miss Daisy got the best love and care a wee kit could want and now, she watches you from the Meadow across the Rainbow Bridge.

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