14 April, 2012 at 2:58 am #50903
Is there a difference in a cat that was hand raised vs one who had a mother? Are they more affectionate?14 April, 2012 at 3:03 am #727603
A kitten should not be hand raised or bottle fed if there is a nursing mother. Kittens need the milk from the mother for the health benefits. The immune system is strengthened and the kitten can thrive more when nursed by a mother. If a mother cat dies or is no longer able to nurse then bottle feeding becomes necessary. No infant of any animal should be removed from a successfully nursing mother.14 April, 2012 at 4:20 am #727604
I have a kitten that is orphaned and she doesn’t have a mother. She had no chance to survive unless a human was willing to step in and raise her for years. I’ve gladly taken that responsiblity with great sacrifice of both sleep and much added stress. I would NEVER dream of taking a thriving baby from a mother of any kind, that is the most inhuman thing a person could ever do!!!
I was just curious because the little kitten LOVES her tummy rubbed and rolls over JUST to have her tummy tickled. My dear friend that’s been helping me with her says she’s going to HATE it when she gets older but I disagree.14 April, 2012 at 5:13 am #727605
I think a lot of it has to do with temperment not necessary who nursed the kitten or not. However I have heard that hand-reared kittens often lack proper “social skills” like don’t bite your friends and humans don’t want to play wrestle with you. That’s why it’s very important when the kitten gets to be a few weeks old to expose it to other friendly cats.
I had a foster kitten who loved his belly rub too! He was nursed by his mother who I also was taking care of, but still loved belly rubs and would purr like a motor when I gave him one. It was so so cute. I miss that little dude.
Also there are health risks of course to orphaned kittens. They have greatly weakened immune systems and are even more fragile.14 April, 2012 at 7:56 am #727606
Thanks Ladysky! I never thought about the point you made. But I don’t know anyone with a cat I can do this with? My sister has a bengal cat, but he is ANTI other cats. As a matter of fact my sister was originally trying to save her little life, but her cat was not happy with the addition. So for the safety of both the kitten and her cat I’m now the new proud kitty owner. I’m gonna see if I can find someone with a friendly cat for the social skills. We have dogs here but not cats. I haven’t had a cat since I was 5! So the cat world is rather new to me.
My mother had taken a runt dog who’s mother kicked from the litter when she was 3 days old, and she wasn’t the “average dog.” She didn’t bark but would chatter her teeth as if she was talking to let you know she needed to go out. And other things she’d do were differently and unique to her being hand raised.14 April, 2012 at 1:33 pm #727607
Thank you for pointing out that I strongly believe a kitten should stay with the mother. I didn’t see anywhere that this was an orphaned kitten.
“Is there a difference in a cat that was hand raised vs one who had a mother? Are they more affectionate?” That is exactly what was posted so I responded in that I do believe any animal should remain with a mother.
There is no mention of this being an orphaned kitten. Seeing as I have had to hand raise a litter when the mother was killed for a student of mine I do believe that I am supportive to hand raising when necessary. The cat in my avitar is one of those kittens. But thank you for your input Elielite as I understand you have much anger.14 April, 2012 at 7:26 pm #727608
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Thanks for reading.14 April, 2012 at 8:29 pm #727609
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Molly was orphaned at 4 weeks old and I raised her from there. She thinks I am her Mother. I had a nine month old kitten at the time and she mothered Molly, too. I still have Molly but one of my younger rescue cats is an alpha and she terrorizes Molly so I have to keep her separate but she is happy with it and gets lots of attention. My rescue mother cat and one of her girls love to have their bellies rubbed. I think that they either do or they don’t and if they do as a kitten they always will. If you can adopt another kitten when yours is a little older that might solve your socialization problem. They adapt fairly easy when they are young. I think affection and how they express it has to do with a cats temperament. I have four right now and they are all affectionate but all a little different in how they interact with me.14 April, 2012 at 8:40 pm #727610
To be honest I was kinda offended by what I felt was a lecture. I only asked a question in a hypothetical way because I didn’t feel the need to bore with a long winded message for a simple question. I figured most of you all have been through this and would know the answer. Just as my question did not state there was an orphan kitten, nor did it state that there was a kitten, or even a pregnant cat. I truly feel that if soxsmom was concerned with my being new, that maybe looking at my history could’ve answered that. Or just asking me before jumping to an assumption. Because no where did I state that I was cruely yanking a baby from the mother.
I thought this forum was for ANYONE, new and old, who needed help or had questions. That our goal was aimed at helping kittens and cats, which is why I signed up. I realise soxsmom has been around for a while, but I noticed another new person on here a year ago (when googling trying to research what I can about raising an orphan kitten) was offended by a senior poster as well. I thought maybe that might have been a one time thing, clearly I was wrong. I do hope that maybe newbies to the forum can feel welcome here unlike mine just now. I will bow out and move on to another forum and hopefully can enjoy conversation with others who are willing to answer my questions without teaching me morals. I do have those and unforutnatly wasn’t given the opportunity to say that.14 April, 2012 at 8:56 pm #727611
Thank you CTR It makes a lot of sense that each have their own personalities. I hope she’ll grow with a special bond with me like I am her. You always here that the feedie grows an attachment to the feeder, but no one says anything about how the feeder grows an attachment to the feedie :).14 April, 2012 at 10:51 pm #727612
Some of our cats like their tummies rubbed now, but didn’t when they were younger. Some are the other way around. Little Fila has always liked her tummy rubbed. She came home with us in a small box when she was about 7 weeks old and kept turning over for belly rubs. When we come home now she runs ahead of us and throws herself on her back with her feet in the air (most unladylike) for rubs.
Thank you for giving this little orphan a fighting chance.14 April, 2012 at 11:00 pm #727613
Mish. Mishy there is no need to move on. We all have off days. I can assure you that,if Soxsmom had not been distracted by a direct and aspertive attack, she would have answered about the personalities of hand-reared VS queen-reared kittens. She would also have apologised for not answering the question directly as asked. Which would in no way have invalidated her stance. I know this because I have seen it before.
Please be aware, we have recently dealt with the grieving of a new orphan raising member who lost the little one after a 3 week battle that had begun to display a glimmer of hope only to be dashed. It is coloring our responses because the challenges of handrearing these tiny ones is so problematic. They are so fragile.14 April, 2012 at 11:39 pm #727614
Mish. Mishy, Welcome to TDK, please understand that however Soxsmom may have come off, she wasn’t trying to be rude. I don’t know this ElieElite person, but they are not being very nice either. However, everyone who has answered or posted to this forum in this post knows what they are talking about.
SM misunderstood your question and got worried that perhaps you had taken away the kitten from its mother, which is a very valid concern. And then it went downhill from there. Please do not leave because of this introduction/post, it is hard to raise orphaned kittens so young. You are a new poster, and since perhaps Soxsmom did not look at your other posts did not realize you had an orphaned kitten, it was just a new user we all haven’t seen before.
Now as for your hand raised kittens being more affectionate than non hand raised. My two cats, a boy and a girl, the girl being hand raised, hardly looks for attention from me and from her Daddy. My boy kitty LOVES attention and is always asking for some.14 April, 2012 at 11:39 pm #727615
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MM she will have a special attachment to you. I’m not sure how it happens it just does. Right now as I am trying to type Molly is cuddled in my arms. I’m not sure how that works either. Please don’t give up on us for a misunderstanding communicating on line is hard sometimes because we can’t see or hear the other person. I hope you will check back and let us know how your little one is doing.15 April, 2012 at 12:43 am #727616
It is for new and old and I will apologize as I certainly thought I was sharing what I thought was information and sorry if it is unneeded, but my opinion. I did not mean to lecture.15 April, 2012 at 12:46 am #727617
I did not take you as a lecturer SM. I think that you were being a concerned member. I find your information very helpful in many cases.
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