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    Jo, as usual, stated it better than I could, but remember, this is YOUR parents’ problem, not yours. You can’t take on the world. I know this because I have tried for my whole life. You can’t fix something that is another person’s problem. OK?

    #66481
    peppercat28
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    Remember your parents are adults…Al-Anon is good..and letting her know you are available for support, but it is necessary for you to get on your own. The longer you stay, the more difficult it is for all involved. It should be the goal of parents to get you out of the nest at the right time, and unless you have been working an MD and doing residency, you need to spread your wings and leave the nest.

    #66482
    Rubia in CA, 4/28
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    Ange – Everyone here has offered excellent advice – particularly about going to Al-Anon. I also agree that you need to think of yourself first. As the others have said, it is your parents’ marriage and their problems – not yours. Your staying could very well provide them with a way to avoid facing up to their problems; you might be enabling your mother to continue putting off making a very unpleasant decision. It sounds like she is using you as a crutch. If you leave, they will no longer be able to use you to distract them from what is really going on in their marriage, and it will help to force them to deal with the real issues.

    Remember, you are only responsible for yourself, and the only person you can control is yourself. You cannot worry whether any of your own actions may prove to be the ‘last straw’ in their marriage. It is up to your mom and dad as to how they react to your leaving. If they choose to react by allowing that to finish their marriage, then that is their decision. It is not your responsibility. And if that is what happens, you must realize that if you had stayed you might only have been postponing the inevitable.

    Ans above all, don’t let your mom make you feel guilty! Feeling guilt is your own choice; it doesn’t help anybody, and will only hurt you. Naturally, you want to help and support your mom – you just need to find the right way to do this. As I said, I suspect that if you remove yourself from the equation, your parents will be more able to focus on their problems, and you will be in a better position to provide your mother with that much needed support.

    Best of luck to you in this difficult decision! Sending positive energy, hugs, purrs and headbonks!

    #66483
    GreatDane
    Participant

    Hi Ange,

    I’m glad you’re planning on moving out! You need to take care of yourself if you’re going to be any help at all to your Mom. Removing yourself from the situation will not only be good for you, it may help your parents’ relationship as well. I can understand that it’s hard for your Mom to have you move out, but it’s time and it’s something all mothers will have to go through at some point. I think once you move out and she realizes that you’re able to take care of yourself, she’ll feel better about it. You also don’t know how your parents’ relationship will change once you’re out of there – maybe the two of them will grow closer living by themselves and it may ultimately help them solve their problems.

    DON’T feel guilty about moving out! I felt terribly guilty about moving, myself. I lived with my Dad for a few months after my Mom passed away. I was 21 and I felt terrible for leaving my Dad all alone (though my brother lived about 12 miles away), but it was something I had to do. Now, I left my Dad in Denmark and moved to Florida, so talk about moving away!!!! It wasn’t easy, Ange, and some people even got on my case about it, but I can’t live my whole life a certain way and forget my own hopes and dreams because I feel guilty leaving him. It’s been eleven years, and we get along great. We talk on the phone often, we email and he comes to visit for a month every year. I’m happy and my Dad’s happy that I’m happy! You see, had I stayed, HE would have been the one feeling guilty about keeping me there!

    Move out, Ange, and live your life. Help out you Mom if she needs it, lend a listening ear if she needs that, but do move out and get on with your own life!

    #66484
    KYKAT 12 23
    Participant

    Ange,

    I am weighing in on the side of sticking to your plans and continuing with trying to be out by the end of the year. Re-assure your mother that you will still be near by and also think about the fact that if you have your own place it will give your mother the opportunity to retreat away from her house when she needs time and space to think and decide what HER next move might be. It is time to live your life for yourself and you will never truly do that while you are living at home.

    #66485
    LadyValkyrie
    Participant

    Thank you everyone! After posting this thread last night I realized cI should not feel guilty for wanting to leave as soon as possible, and that if my mom needs to talk I am only a phone call away. I picked up my share rental search and even expanded the area some. I am hopibng to find something soon that I can afford as well as my other expenses. I still plan to be out of here by December but if something else comes up sooner I will persue it.

    I even started looking at alternatives for short stays with other family members but, knowing their situtations I don’t want to burden them. My sister is in a crumbling marriage as well with an alcoholic, with 4 girls aging 16 to 4 this december, she would take me in a heartbeat and my nieces would love it but one more mouth to feed and cook for (mind you I would pay rent or help with grocery costs which muy sister would refuse stuborn just like me ;o) .)

    My brother lives in San Fran but the gas I would be using would eat up any profits I could make. Plus he has only recently found a new job and got off welfare (question not sure if it’s called welfare when you get released by your boss) plus he lives with 3 other guys so it’s pretty full thhere as well. The last sibling I have lives in Stockton, ca, but my brother doesn’t work so his wife is the sole breadwinner plus they have their 5 year old daughter plus I would have to find new jobs, which will be a bigger burden and stress on me.

    I thought of staying short term in a hotel/motel, but roomrates and laundry will be very pricey.

    Now don’t think I’m giving up, I’m not down for the count. I am regrouping and trying another approach and strategizing.

    I will mention to my mom tonight al-non (we have girls night into while stepfather goes to his all male hunting club meeting). I will also lay out my new plan/goal. I will remind her if she needs me I’m here for her as support but I have to do this for ME! I will also tell her she needs to do some serious thinking as well about her happiness and marriage. Her wants, needs, desires and expectations. I will also let her know it’s her choices, and it should not involve me, it’s brtween them.

    Any other thoughts on how to do this without making her feel like I’m leaving her alone on the battlefield so to speak. I want her to finally take back her control and draw on all that strength that showed us through our past hardships before she got reinvolved 14 years ago.

    Thanks again my tkd family. I know I can always count on you for advice.

    love,

    Ange

    #66486
    LadyValkyrie
    Participant

    I am off to shower and head to my appointments today for work, so please keep sending advice. I will check them when I get home.

    Thanks again my tdk fam.

    Ange

    #66487
    Sylmiafelixsmama
    Participant

    Rubia in UK has put it so well. I agree with her. You should go ahead with your plans to move out as your parents need to deal with the issue between themselves. Al-Anon is a great place to go and get help with dealing with the issues you are feeling (feelings of abandoning your mom, etc.). We are all here for you. Lots of hugs.

    #66488
    anncetera2
    Participant

    Ange, hang in there. You’re not leaving your mother alone, you just won’t physically be sharing the same living space. As you noted, you won’t be more than a phone call away.

    In addition, I’m glad that you recognize that your mom should probably think about taking a look at her situation, and figure out what direction she wants to go, at this point in her life. That’s entirely up to her, though; she may need to do that at her own pace, in her own way. I wish her the very best of luck in figuring all that out.

    Believe it or not, Ange, you’re through the worst part – you’ve decided what you’re going to do. Everything else gets easier, now. What you’re working on now is implementing your plan, and finding good ways to feel more comfortable with the changes you’re making.

    Change is stressful, even good change; change can also be very scary. Be kind and gentle to yourself as you deal with these transitions.

    #66489
    Jo in Blairsville
    Participant

    I’m so proud to be here among such insighful, loving people. You’re all amazing. Great advice, TDKers!

    Wouldn’t it be wonderful if Ange’s changing her own life — gives her mother the strength she needs to change hers?

    #66490
    MadcatwomanintheUK
    Participant

    Hi Ange – I feel like the last person in the world to advise re mothers and guilt right now, and certanly couldn’t add to or better any of the advise you’ve already been given…so just have some heartfelt {{{hugs}}} xx

    #66491
    LadyValkyrie
    Participant

    Thanks everyone one. I am starting my search twofold now. Plus searching for a place in a larger area, though it does now mean I need to estimate a little more towards gas. Yes change can be stressful, and scary, but I have decided I need this, I can do this and my Mom made sure I was prepared for this since I was a kid. Now last step is to find a place. I had originally be looking for a reasonable 1 or 2 bedroom place, but way outta my range. So I have taken your wise advice started looking for share rentals. Even some of these are outta my range once you add utilities to it, plus other needful things. I keep looking though and with all of your support, advice, prayers I am sure things will become available that I can manage.

    Thanks again my family.

    Ange

    #66492
    AZDEBRA 5/27 & crew
    Participant

    Ange, in your search look for 1 room apartments also, can’t remember what they are called off-hand. Some of them are actually spacious enough for 1 person and a kitten or cat (if you choose to have one), and some have all the utilities but electric and/or water included (just examples, a lot of them have cable/trash/and what-have-you paid with the rent). Just more thoughts for your search.

    #66493
    AZDEBRA 5/27 & crew
    Participant

    Oh and I forgot, usually the 1 room apts are between 400-600 sq ft w/bathroom and kitchen or kitchenette.

    #66494
    2 Popoki
    Participant

    AZDEBRA… I think you are searching for “studio apt” 🙂

    #66495
    AZDEBRA 5/27 & crew
    Participant

    OP, yeah that’s it….see what happens when one sleeps one hour vs 3-4 hrs, lol

    #66496
    LadyValkyrie
    Participant

    OP your right studios. Been looking but most are 800 and up. But haven’t given up yet on them.

    #66497
    Elene_YorkPA_7/21
    Participant

    Ange, another path is to look for a small space in private home. Sometimes you can find a person looking for help with the mortgage that rents out a small space which includes kitchen privledges and such. Mostly they try to keep this affordable. I’ve also seen where they sometimes knock off some rent for lawn care and such.

    #66498
    Tigger
    Participant

    Look at that,Ange!! All this great help and support pouring out on ‘ya.It does my heart REAL good to see you getting all this.Know why?YOU deserve it,believe it or don’t. E-mail me if ya’ want to tonight,Ange. I’ll be around all evening after 7:30pm.

    #66499
    LadyValkyrie
    Participant

    Hi everyone! Good news sat down tonight with mom and talked things over about moving and everything else. I feel as if a great weight and the guilt is completely gone. We discussed what are fears are about the move, what we will miss and ways to still do some of them.

    Mom felt really bad for stressing me into feel guilt, but she didn’t realize her emotions were washing over me in waves. Once she aired her concerns we discussed them to figure out ways to relieve her stress and worry.

    Ijust wanted to thank everyone for your support and advice.

    Loads of love and grautatued (spelling ?)

    Ange

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