31 January, 2009 at 3:28 am #24525
Hello all. My name is Tara. I work at a vet clinic and about 2 weeks ago we had a client bring in a can in labor in pretty bad shape. We did an emergency c-section and the mom passed away during surgery, along with one of the kittens. Two kitten survived, however another passed away the next day. One little boy survived and he is now 10 days old.
I agreed to take him friday-tuesday when I am not working and we have kind of been taking turns taking him home at night during the week. I had him all weekend last weekend – boy was that a long weekend! Feedings every 90 minutes..exhausting!! Today however he has become constipated. We were able to get him to produce a small amount of really sticky gross stool this afternoon but not enough to make much of difference. We gave him a warm water enema about 2 1/2 hours ago and still no stool. Any tips?? I am worried about the little fella…it would be a shame to lose him now 🙁31 January, 2009 at 3:34 am #376722
Can you reach one of the vets you work with for advice?
Are you stimulating the kitten just before and after he eats to help him eliminate? Use a soft cloth dipped in warm water and gently rub around his anus in a circular motion. I assume you are feeding him kitten milk replacement. Some here on TDK have mixed a bit of pumpkin into baby food and offered it too a constipated kitten, but I don’t know if this is best for one so young.
Please keep us posted on how this little boy gets along. We often find ourselves cheering when a kitty poops! lol
Thanks for caring for this small fuzzy baby!31 January, 2009 at 3:53 am #376723
Hi there. Thank you for the quick reply. He was at the clinic this afternoon and try as we might we were only able to get him to produce a very small amount of very sticky stool. The doc gave him a warm water enema and he produced a very small amount of stool just before we left, but he did not poop out any of the water used for the enema. She said told me to take him home and continue to feed and stimulate him. I work tomorrow morning so I will take him with me, I just don’t know what to expect and it would really break my heart if he dies overnight 🙁31 January, 2009 at 3:54 am #376724
PS…yes, we are feeding him KMR. We recently 2 or 3 days ago switched from mixed KMR to powdered, she didn’t think that would have anything to do with the constipation but I wonder????31 January, 2009 at 4:07 am #376725
We just had someone post about a constipated kitten who . after blood work was done, was determined to have hypothyroidism, which can be life threatening. You may want to get a second opinion and request a complete blood panel.
Best wishes31 January, 2009 at 4:09 am #376726
I hope the little guy does OK through the night, Tara. Other, more experienced TDKers may see your post so check back from time to time. Do you have a picture of this baby? You can use it here as your avatar by going into your profile here and following the directions. Click on my avatar to see pictures of my two kits, Digit and Furl. They are polydactly. 🙂31 January, 2009 at 5:42 am #376727
I am curious if you work at a vet clinic why you think you would be able to get better help from lay people on the internet? If I had the luxury of being in touch with a vet clinic and needed help I would take my pet there not wait to hear from someone through an online group.31 January, 2009 at 11:01 am #376728
wow….that was not exactly the response i was looking for. clearly you have not read my post, he has been at the clinic all day…nothing we are trying is working. i was hoping people experienced at raising orphaned kittens may be able to give us some tips we had not thought of but forget it31 January, 2009 at 11:06 am #376729
Hope that the little one gets better, I have never dealt with kittens that young so can’t help with suggestions….just best wishes and prayers going out to him and those of you who are caring for him.31 January, 2009 at 11:28 am #376730
TaraRose, I wish I could suggest something. If he were older, I would mix his food with a little vegetable oil but he’s so young and only on KMR. However, I would think that changing to powdered KMR could upset his tiny system. You might also want to look into Tigerlillie’s suggestion of hyperthyroidism.
I saw one website that suggested a little acidophilus yoghurt. I wonder if a tiny amount of this, watered down, might help his little system.
Please keep us up to date with how this little one does, and if you find anything that helps. You’re all stars for trying so hard to save him!31 January, 2009 at 11:33 am #376731
Just thought of something, might want to use pedialyte also to ensure that the little guy doesn’t become de-hydrated.31 January, 2009 at 12:04 pm #376732
TaraRose if you post is legitimate I apologize for my knee jerk reaction. We have had a number of really bad experiences recently with people who have nothing better to do with their time then to write with horrific stories of kittens on the verge of death they are trying to save only to find it was all a hoax. It is frustrating and disheartening for all of us when in our mind we picture a little kitten suffering and try to help only to find you are being made a fool of and your emotions and time have been wasted. I believe we have just had another example of one of these trolls very recently and your request seemed similar so in fact, I thought you were the same person. I think I am becoming paranoid about this and unfortunately you got the brunt of it. Again, my apologies. I hope you are able to help this little guy.31 January, 2009 at 12:43 pm #376733
Petpntr, I beleive this person really dose have a constipated kitten on her hands.:)31 January, 2009 at 12:59 pm #376734
Yes I think you are right CF. I jumped the gun and regret it.31 January, 2009 at 9:45 pm #376735
Hi,I manage a small UK shelter and at the end of last year we had a litter of 7 x 2 day old kittens.
Try to keep in proportion how much poop you are expecting. Weigh kitten, weigh kitten and weigh again. There’s moreto a healthy kitten than poop quantities, although regularity is very important. Some of ours didnt pooh for 48 hours sometimes. We kept charts for each kittens but I’m sure each pooh will be engrained in you mind.
One thing that can work is to carry out the usual tickle toilet procedure with warm water and then cold, sometime that gets a reaction.
It isnt easy bringing up such a young kitten and it can be very hearbreaking, but you can only give it a chance.
Another really good idea, which we managed to do with four of this lot which werent thriving as the others was get a foster mum. If only to clean, although invaribly then end up feedint if they can.
Failing a cat mum, have you got a dog that is a motherer.
Anything is worth a try.
Good luck and I really look forward to hearing how you wished you’d never compalined about not having enough pooh!
Sorry this is my first post so I hope I havent overstepped the mark.31 January, 2009 at 9:51 pm #376736
Hi Tararose, welcome to TDK – I hope the little kitten made it through the night, and that you come back to update us. This IS a happy and friendly community, and we love sharing cat stories and experiences.
And hi Just Me! – another welcome to TDK. Never apologise for an informative post, be it your first or one hundred and first! Whereabouts in the UK are you? There aren’t too many of us Brits on this site, but we are growing in number! :o)31 January, 2009 at 9:56 pm #376737
Hi Tararose! How is your baby doing? Thanks Just me for the informative post.1 February, 2009 at 12:18 am #376738
Well hello again. I logged on this afternoon not expecting such a warm welcome from the rest. Thank you for it 🙂
I too apologize for my short post last night. I logged on to check at the 3AM feeding and he still hadn’t pooped and I was tired, agitated and stressed.
Anyhow, bygones. 😉 The little kitten made it through the night and we gave him another enema at the clinic this morning about 8. He produced a HUGE amount of very gooey, hard stool followed by nice watery diarrhea about 30 minutes later. He produced another small amount of firmer diarrhea about 30 minutes after that. He is active and obviously feels better though his little bum is so raw it was bleeding. I put a bit of mupiricin ointment on it at the clinic this morning.
Any tips on how I can keep this from happening again?? I have 4 other cats, none of which have the slightest bit of interest in him. I tried to get my bengal, my only female, interested in him last night to see if she would give him a bath and she sniffed him and walked away, if cats could have rolled their eyes she would have done that too.
Now how do I convince myself not to keep him?? 😉1 February, 2009 at 12:22 am #376739
Yay for poop!!! 🙂
Glad to hear the little guy got some relief. You must be relieved too that his system seems to be working at that end. 🙂
Do you suppose your other cats dislike the v-e-t smell? I don’t know what to suggest for avoiding this happening again. He may need to be tested for thyroid issues as others suggested.
I’m glad you posted an update. Thank you!!1 February, 2009 at 12:24 am #376740
Good news on the poo front (been there and lost my share of sleep over that issue)…and good luck on the “not” keeping him.
Trust me, I didn’t believe everyone here but when we were nursing 7 kittens after they lost their mom they all told me we would keep them all. Well HA, we only kept three and then got two more back so we have 5, not all seven (thank goodness), but it looks like they will be staying. We are a 6 cat house now.1 February, 2009 at 12:24 am #376741
Yay, a happy news update! So pleased to hear little Riley is doing better! As KW told you, we get very excited about poop here!
Hi, Just Me, welcome to TDK to you too. We are all nuts about kitties so looks like you’ll fit in just fine. I think you had some great advice too. I volunteer at our local SPCA and we always put orphan kittens in with foster mums, who are also nursing kittens, though that might be a problem for TaraRose to find (we tend to be inundated with them!). I should have thought of that before.
TaraRose I’m also still a bit suspicious of powdered ANYTHING. I know it should be fine but (maybe I’m being silly here), if it’s anything other than brand new, it seems to always clump a bit and I just wonder whether you’re right and on such a tiny kitten’s system… But certainly your vet should know best!
This is a great site and hope to see you both posting again soon. I am in New Zealand, with two kitties, Libby and Jasper, both ex-ferals/strays. That’s Libby in my avatar. Yay, Riley, hope he keeps getting better and better.1 February, 2009 at 12:31 am #3767421 February, 2009 at 1:06 am #376743
Hi Tara,I’m so glad to hear about little Riley and his poo! When I fostered my two little three week old kittens I had to be careful to note the color of the kitten wee and if it was even a bit yellow I added pedialyte to the KMR mixture(I used the powdered because one of my boys refused to be weened until he was 8 weeks old).
They’re big boys now.
Here’s a link of my Dusty drinking from the bottle1 February, 2009 at 1:19 am #376744
Oops..did I post Riley? We have been calling him Little.
We just finished a feeding and he ate a TON. He also pees a TON…every time I feed him he pees before AND after. I wonder if I should be stimulating him more than every 3 hours to urinate?? I talked to another gal at the clinic today who used powdered KMR to raise her bottle kitten with no hitches. I will see how he does over the weekend on the powdered, I hate to keep switching back and forth on him.
Thanks again for all the advice and warm welcome. I will try to post some pics tonight 🙂1 February, 2009 at 1:23 am #376745
Sorry, Tara, I think I’m mixing him up with another kitty. ‘Senior moment’, lol, sorry. And ignore me about the powdered milk, obviously no one else has had any problems with it.
Yay for Little!1 February, 2009 at 1:27 am #376746
TaraRose, I don’t know anything about what you have experienced with little Little. But I’m so glad that he is doing better. And poo- that makes us all happy! I have never hand raised a little one like this and so am no help at all.
But, I’m so glad that you have found TDK and we have many members here who can be of help.
And, Just Me – we sure welcome your insight and advice!
Go, Little!!! (figuratively and literally)1 February, 2009 at 1:52 am #376747
I just logged on, soooo happy to hear that your baby is doing better.
I would still ask your vet if it’s worth checking for thyroid disease, just to be sure. Would love to see photos when you get a chance. Click on my avatar and you will see my 9 furry babies! Welcome to TDK.1 February, 2009 at 6:30 am #376748
Glad to hear that the Little one is doing better, and don’t worry about the others not paying attention to him. One reason might be, that shifts the whole pecking order because you will obviously be paying more attention to the littlest one of the group. Might want to try and rub him down with a blanket or something that one of the other cats were lying on to give him their scent or at least a scent that is familiar to them. Haven’t tried it with mine but it seems like it would make sense in a feline mind……yeah yeah like I know what any felines think….I only have 6 of them, small # compared to others, lol!!!1 February, 2009 at 4:11 pm #376749
Hi, Thank you to all for the welcome.
Tararose, if you have any cat showing a mild interest him a little bit of something good on him might help. Even just after a feed when there’s milk everywhere? If you can supervise pop them in a cat box together. Even if they take of the cleaning its a huge help, and don’t rule out the a possible Dad!
So glad he’s doing well.
As for not keeping him, give youself a break and just accept you’ve been choosen!1 February, 2009 at 6:33 pm #376750
well I’ve got 4 now, I guess I have some catching up to to the rest of you! Little would make 5.
He will be two weeks old tuesday and his eyes are still not open. I thought they opened by 10 days? Also I am doing feedings every 3 hours and he still wakes up and seems hungry in between occasionally. I have been feeding him whenever he wakes up and cries..is this the right thing to do??
He does NOT want to sleep in his box today, only with me. He is in there scratching away now. I don’t want him to grow up thinking he needs to be held all the time. Any tips on what to do here??
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